Xantia

[simon]

Just accuired an m-plate xantia turbo diesel,guy told me the timing belt was
done 6,000 miles ago etc,problem with it is the engine has dropped or
snapped of the engine mounts,it seems to have given way at the side as in
where the bolts for the mount go into the head/block,i assume thats right
can anbody shed some light on the timing and mount arrangements,the engine
is still ok as the belt hasn't slipped so looking at a new belt at least.
Help would be appreciated

Si

[Malc]

"simon" <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:9Rbcd.1067$2q.333@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> Just accuired an m-plate xantia turbo diesel,guy told me the timing belt
was
> done 6,000 miles ago etc,problem with it is the engine has dropped or
> snapped of the engine mounts,it seems to have given way at the side as in
> where the bolts for the mount go into the head/block,i assume thats right
> can anbody shed some light on the timing and mount arrangements,the engine
> is still ok as the belt hasn't slipped so looking at a new belt at least.
> Help would be appreciated
>
>
It would be easier to help if we could read what the heck you're on about.
Don't they teach punctuation and grammar any more?

--
Malc

[simon]

"Malc" <malunspamwhhite@lightindigooverthere.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qdecd.9794$xb.2265@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
>
> "simon" <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:9Rbcd.1067$2q.333@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > Just accuired an m-plate xantia turbo diesel,guy told me the timing belt
> was
> > done 6,000 miles ago etc,problem with it is the engine has dropped or
> > snapped of the engine mounts,it seems to have given way at the side as
in
> > where the bolts for the mount go into the head/block,i assume thats
right
> > can anbody shed some light on the timing and mount arrangements,the
engine
> > is still ok as the belt hasn't slipped so looking at a new belt at
least.
> > Help would be appreciated
> >
> >
> It would be easier to help if we could read what the heck you're on about.
> Don't they teach punctuation and grammar any more?
>
> --
> Malc
>
> It reads ok to me,punctuation marks as when required,could it be you just
dont know what i'm on about?so why bother giving a sarcastic comment to make
me look stupid, when infact if you were machanically minded would know
what i mean.Hope all the spelling is correct.

Si,

[Adrian]

simon (simon.day2@ntlworld.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying :

>> It would be easier to help if we could read what the heck you're on
>> about. Don't they teach punctuation and grammar any more?

> It reads ok to me,punctuation marks as when required,could it be you
> just dont know what i'm on about?so why bother giving a sarcastic
> comment to make me look stupid, when infact if you were machanically
> minded would know what i mean.Hope all the spelling is correct.

Do they teach "Irony" these days?

[Guy King]

The message <HFfcd.1146$2q.1029@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>
from "simon" <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> contains these words:

> > It reads ok to me,punctuation marks as when required,could it be you just
> dont know what i'm on about?so why bother giving a sarcastic comment to make
> me look stupid, when infact if you were machanically minded would know
> what i mean.Hope all the spelling is correct.

It's still pretty nearly gibberish.

You say the belt hasn't slipped but say that you need a new belt. It's
not entirely clear what information you are asking for.

--
Skipweasel.
Being superstitious brings bad luck

[DuncanWood]

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:39:03 GMT, simon <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>
> "Malc" <malunspamwhhite@lightindigooverthere.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:qdecd.9794$xb.2265@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
>>
>> "simon" <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:9Rbcd.1067$2q.333@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
>> > Just accuired an m-plate xantia turbo diesel,guy told me the timing
>> belt
>> was
>> > done 6,000 miles ago etc,problem with it is the engine has dropped or
>> > snapped of the engine mounts,it seems to have given way at the side
>> as
> in
>> > where the bolts for the mount go into the head/block,i assume thats
> right
>> > can anbody shed some light on the timing and mount arrangements,the
> engine
>> > is still ok as the belt hasn't slipped so looking at a new belt at
> least.
>> > Help would be appreciated
>> >
>> >
>> It would be easier to help if we could read what the heck you're on
>> about.
>> Don't they teach punctuation and grammar any more?
>>
>> --
>> Malc
>>
>> It reads ok to me,punctuation marks as when required,could it be you
>> just
> dont know what i'm on about?so why bother giving a sarcastic comment to
> make
> me look stupid, when infact if you were machanically minded would know
> what i mean.Hope all the spelling is correct.
>
> Si,
>
>

Well I can't work out whether you mean the engine mounts broken or the
engines broken & why you're talking about the cambelt slipping.

[Adrian]

Guy King (guy.king@zetnet.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

> You say the belt hasn't slipped but say that you need a new belt. It's
> not entirely clear what information you are asking for.

My translation of the original is that the engine mount on the belt end of
the engine has fallen out - possibly stripped threads in the head.

On this engine, the mount goes through the middle of the cambelt, and needs
to be removed (and the engine supported) to do the belt.

[Guy King]

The message <Xns9584DEEFCA4EAadrianachapmanfreeis@130.133.1.4>
from Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> contains these words:

> On this engine, the mount goes through the middle of the cambelt, and needs
> to be removed (and the engine supported) to do the belt.

So what's his problem? Buy a Haynes BoL and get on with it.

--
Skipweasel.
Being superstitious brings bad luck

[Adrian]

Guy King (guy.king@zetnet.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

>> On this engine, the mount goes through the middle of the cambelt, and
>> needs to be removed (and the engine supported) to do the belt.

> So what's his problem? Buy a Haynes BoL and get on with it.

Or even a dictionary...

I suspect that the ham-fisted muppets that did it last time may have
stripped the threads for the mount, thus causing the motor to sag.

If, indeed, that's what's happened.

[Malc]

"simon" <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Malc" <malunspamwhhite@lightindigooverthere.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:qdecd.9794$xb.2265@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk ...
> >
> > "simon" <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> > news:9Rbcd.1067$2q.333@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > > Just accuired an m-plate xantia turbo diesel,guy told me the timing
belt
> > was
> > > done 6,000 miles ago etc,problem with it is the engine has dropped or
> > > snapped of the engine mounts,it seems to have given way at the side
as
> in
> > > where the bolts for the mount go into the head/block,i assume thats
> right
> > > can anbody shed some light on the timing and mount arrangements,the
> engine
> > > is still ok as the belt hasn't slipped so looking at a new belt at
> least.
> > > Help would be appreciated
> > >
> > >
> > It would be easier to help if we could read what the heck you're on
about.
> > Don't they teach punctuation and grammar any more?
> >
> > --
> > Malc
> >
> > It reads ok to me,punctuation marks as when required,could it be you
just
> dont know what i'm on about?so why bother giving a sarcastic comment to
make
> me look stupid, when infact if you were machanically minded would know
> what i mean.Hope all the spelling is correct.
>
No it doesn't, you muppet. Let me give you an English lesson on your reply.

It reads ok to me [full stop] Punctuation marks [inserted] as [] required
[full stop] Could it be you just don[']t know what [I]'m on about? [S]o why
bother giving a sarcastic response to make me look stupid, when in[ ] fact
if you were m[e]chanically minded [you] would know what [I] mean [?] Hope
all the spelling is correct.

Now your response is almost as bad as your initial post. I would like to
help you, that's why I drop in here now and again and I do own a Xantia so I
might just be able to help. But, if I, and quite a few others, cannot
understand your post we can't help you can we?

HTH HAND
--
Malc

[Guy King]

The message <Rnwcd.10179$xb.5687@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "Malc" <malunspamwhhite@lightindigooverthere.co.uk> contains these words:

> But, if I, and quite a few others, cannot
> understand your post we can't help you can we?

And will shortly lose patience and give up trying.

--
Skipweasel.
Being superstitious brings bad luck

[Malc]

"DuncanWood" <freenews@dmx512.co.uk> wrote in message
news:opsfzdjx0nkx08km@amy...

> >
> >
>
> Well I can't work out whether you mean the engine mounts broken or the
> engines broken & why you're talking about the cambelt slipping.

The drivebelt (I believe they call it nowadays) or alternator belt also runs
round that mount, so it is possible he's talking about that.

--
Malc

[R L Driver]

"simon" <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:9Rbcd.1067$2q.333@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> Just accuired an m-plate xantia turbo diesel,guy told me the timing belt
was
> done 6,000 miles ago etc,problem with it is the engine has dropped or
> snapped of the engine mounts,it seems to have given way at the side as in
> where the bolts for the mount go into the head/block,i assume thats right
> can anbody shed some light on the timing and mount arrangements,the engine
> is still ok as the belt hasn't slipped so looking at a new belt at least.
> Help would be appreciated
>
> Si
>
> If the mount has moved it will have rubbed on the teeth of the belt and
worn part of them away as there is only running clearance between belt and
mounting. Note that the tensioner is part of the engine mount and that the
mount is dowelled onto the head .
steve the grease

[simon]

"R L Driver" <stevedottee@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:CpDcd.2302$i3.188@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>
> "simon" <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:9Rbcd.1067$2q.333@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > Just accuired an m-plate xantia turbo diesel,guy told me the timing belt
> was
> > done 6,000 miles ago etc,problem with it is the engine has dropped or
> > snapped of the engine mounts,it seems to have given way at the side as
in
> > where the bolts for the mount go into the head/block,i assume thats
right
> > can anbody shed some light on the timing and mount arrangements,the
engine
> > is still ok as the belt hasn't slipped so looking at a new belt at
least.
> > Help would be appreciated
> >
> > Si
> >
> > If the mount has moved it will have rubbed on the teeth of the belt and
> worn part of them away as there is only running clearance between belt and
> mounting. Note that the tensioner is part of the engine mount and that the
> mount is dowelled onto the head .
> steve the grease
>
> Upon removing the head,i did indeed find that the belt was minus many
teeth,also the cam has snapped,
Do apollogise to those who have responded with not being able to understand
the origonal post.
The tensioner seems to be ok,but regarding the mount it appears that it has
4studs which hold it on, one has snapped flush with the block,any ideas on
how to remove it?
Si

[Guy King]

The message <2tVcd.213$zY1.130@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
from "simon" <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> contains these words:

> The tensioner seems to be ok,but regarding the mount it appears that it has
> 4studs which hold it on, one has snapped flush with the block,any ideas on
> how to remove it?

My absolute favourite way of removing snapped off studs is with a left
hand drill - the heat and torque generated brings 'em out a treat, but
such things are not easily available, and it's hard to to it without a
drillpress - which would mean having the block on the bench usually.

If you're going to use easy-outs, a sort of very coarse tapering screw
with a left-hand thread, beware of cheap ones which snap off easier than
a carrot and leave you with a bloody hard fragment stuck in the hole,
which is a sod to remove to try again. I'd use 'em - but carefully and
get good ones.

--
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

[DuncanWood]

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:33:35 +0100, Guy King <guy.king@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> The message <2tVcd.213$zY1.130@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> from "simon" <simon.day2@ntlworld.com> contains these words:
>
>> The tensioner seems to be ok,but regarding the mount it appears that it
>> has
>> 4studs which hold it on, one has snapped flush with the block,any ideas
>> on
>> how to remove it?
>
> My absolute favourite way of removing snapped off studs is with a left
> hand drill - the heat and torque generated brings 'em out a treat, but
> such things are not easily available, and it's hard to to it without a
> drillpress - which would mean having the block on the bench usually.
>

They work pretty well in a decent cordless.


> If you're going to use easy-outs, a sort of very coarse tapering screw
> with a left-hand thread, beware of cheap ones which snap off easier than
> a carrot and leave you with a bloody hard fragment stuck in the hole,
> which is a sod to remove to try again. I'd use 'em - but carefully and
> get good ones.
>