genuine_froggie
01-21-2005, 03:18 AM
Ben Blaney <m7@privacy.net> wrote:
> genuine_froggie wrote:
>>The Older Gentleman <chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>>> Insults are insults. Water of a duck's back, an' all that. Malice,
>>> innuendo and downright untruths are a very different kettle of fish, IMO.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Yes, indeed.
> "Yamaha R1"
Like I say: yes, indeed.
Now consider the sheer _malice_ in some comments directed my way, and ask
yourself if they were merited. No, don't bother: I can predict your
response.
However, it's quite remarkable, the reactions to that 'saga'. I am as sure
as I've ever been about _anything_, that if things had been reversed, the
outcome would have been different. The comments would have been along the
lines of, 'Des, you're a cunt: it's Cab's business and no one else's,
whether he has an R1 or not'.
That being said, however, the full story can be told. As I've mentioned
before, the inclusion of the 'R1' sig, was accidental, as it was intended
for another newsgroup. Ginge noticed it, and then when Cab got back, he
said that there had been some 'amount of bull****' or whatever. Bear
appeared to catch that, and posted something questioning the existence of
the bike. I fired off an e-mail to Cab, along the lines of 'cheers, mate',
and he replied with an apology, saying something like, 'I should have kept
my big mouth shut'. Quite. What a pity that he didn't, and that at a
subsequent TOG meet somewhere in France, he decided to shout his mouth off
about _other_ aspects mf my private life (I know this, as things were
posted here later on, that only Cab knew). I've been accused of asking Cab
to 'lie for me'. I didn't. In response to his, 'what am I supposed to
tell them when they ask me ??', I answered, 'tell them nothing'. That
wasn't asking him to 'lie'; it was asking him to mind his own business. Of
course, an even better response would have been for him to reply to Champ's
(who I believe was the first to send an e-mail to Cab .. as if it were any
of his ****ing business, but let's not dwell on that) e-mail asking whether
I had a bike, with a, 'what's it to you ??'. If Usenet hadn't been so
'porous', then I'd have had no problem about, to use the current
vernacular, 'fessing up', but I know for a fact that at one of the people
who have in the past made death threats against me, reads this group.
Any amount of rationalising can be done (and will be), you shouldn't have
lied, it wasn't right, blah blah. The bald truth of the matter is that
whether I had a bike or not was my business (and don't give us any ****
about my posting it here making it others' business: do those who post
about vasectomies need to provide scans and/or digital photos of their
bruised balls ?), and no amount of whingeing on the part of the toadying
cunts on here is going to change that. Cab was out of line, and instead of
the _vox populi_ roundly condemning him for betraying someone who at that
time had taken him to be a 'friend', he was fêtedas some sort of
'saviour', protecting UKRM from big, bad Des and his imaginary R1. Since
then, any amount of snide comments have been made, 'would you trust him?',
'can he be believed ?' &c. Gimme a break. I told an untruth about
something that, all things considered, was my business and no one else's.
Cab revealed to all and sundry, things had been told to him in confidence.
Which is the greater 'crime' ?
The result is that _I'm_ flamed, and he's patted on the back and adored to
such an extent that even now, he enjoys almost goil-like immunity from
criticism, and any attack brings vicious condemnation on he or she who had
aimed the criticism. As our American friends would say: go figure.
(PS lest I be accused of 'going quiet', and not answering any post that you
might make in response to this, know that I'm away from the PC all day, and
that some friends are coming around this evening, so I shan't be able to
post until tomorrow at the earliest, or possibly Monday morning)
--
genuine_froggie@zeouane.org
UKRM's Man in France
BMW K100-LT
http://tinyurl.com/6y3gk
> genuine_froggie wrote:
>>The Older Gentleman <chateauSPAMKILL.murray@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>>> Insults are insults. Water of a duck's back, an' all that. Malice,
>>> innuendo and downright untruths are a very different kettle of fish, IMO.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Yes, indeed.
> "Yamaha R1"
Like I say: yes, indeed.
Now consider the sheer _malice_ in some comments directed my way, and ask
yourself if they were merited. No, don't bother: I can predict your
response.
However, it's quite remarkable, the reactions to that 'saga'. I am as sure
as I've ever been about _anything_, that if things had been reversed, the
outcome would have been different. The comments would have been along the
lines of, 'Des, you're a cunt: it's Cab's business and no one else's,
whether he has an R1 or not'.
That being said, however, the full story can be told. As I've mentioned
before, the inclusion of the 'R1' sig, was accidental, as it was intended
for another newsgroup. Ginge noticed it, and then when Cab got back, he
said that there had been some 'amount of bull****' or whatever. Bear
appeared to catch that, and posted something questioning the existence of
the bike. I fired off an e-mail to Cab, along the lines of 'cheers, mate',
and he replied with an apology, saying something like, 'I should have kept
my big mouth shut'. Quite. What a pity that he didn't, and that at a
subsequent TOG meet somewhere in France, he decided to shout his mouth off
about _other_ aspects mf my private life (I know this, as things were
posted here later on, that only Cab knew). I've been accused of asking Cab
to 'lie for me'. I didn't. In response to his, 'what am I supposed to
tell them when they ask me ??', I answered, 'tell them nothing'. That
wasn't asking him to 'lie'; it was asking him to mind his own business. Of
course, an even better response would have been for him to reply to Champ's
(who I believe was the first to send an e-mail to Cab .. as if it were any
of his ****ing business, but let's not dwell on that) e-mail asking whether
I had a bike, with a, 'what's it to you ??'. If Usenet hadn't been so
'porous', then I'd have had no problem about, to use the current
vernacular, 'fessing up', but I know for a fact that at one of the people
who have in the past made death threats against me, reads this group.
Any amount of rationalising can be done (and will be), you shouldn't have
lied, it wasn't right, blah blah. The bald truth of the matter is that
whether I had a bike or not was my business (and don't give us any ****
about my posting it here making it others' business: do those who post
about vasectomies need to provide scans and/or digital photos of their
bruised balls ?), and no amount of whingeing on the part of the toadying
cunts on here is going to change that. Cab was out of line, and instead of
the _vox populi_ roundly condemning him for betraying someone who at that
time had taken him to be a 'friend', he was fêtedas some sort of
'saviour', protecting UKRM from big, bad Des and his imaginary R1. Since
then, any amount of snide comments have been made, 'would you trust him?',
'can he be believed ?' &c. Gimme a break. I told an untruth about
something that, all things considered, was my business and no one else's.
Cab revealed to all and sundry, things had been told to him in confidence.
Which is the greater 'crime' ?
The result is that _I'm_ flamed, and he's patted on the back and adored to
such an extent that even now, he enjoys almost goil-like immunity from
criticism, and any attack brings vicious condemnation on he or she who had
aimed the criticism. As our American friends would say: go figure.
(PS lest I be accused of 'going quiet', and not answering any post that you
might make in response to this, know that I'm away from the PC all day, and
that some friends are coming around this evening, so I shan't be able to
post until tomorrow at the earliest, or possibly Monday morning)
--
genuine_froggie@zeouane.org
UKRM's Man in France
BMW K100-LT
http://tinyurl.com/6y3gk