Ah memories... and a question for the shelving/drilling lot

[dwb]

Clearing out the garage today I came across the bent rear brake lever from
the first bin of the SV, 3 and a bit years ago. The thought that occured to
was "Hmm, I'd just use it like that these days" :-)

On a different note, any recommendations on what plug fixing type to use for
breezeblock[1]? Normal 'Rawl' type plugs don't seem to work too well as the
breeze block fragments slightly when it's being drilled - thus giving a
larger uneven hole. I found that sticking quick drying polyfilla found the
plug and then inserting did a reasonable job but I;m sure there are proper
fixings - hence any recommendations?


[1] grey cement type block with a not particularly dense structure - nothing
like brick.

[Greybeard]

"dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk> wrote in message
news:34dd5aF46c16dU1@individual.net...
> Clearing out the garage today I came across the bent rear brake lever from
> the first bin of the SV, 3 and a bit years ago. The thought that occured
> to
> was "Hmm, I'd just use it like that these days" :-)
>
> On a different note, any recommendations on what plug fixing type to use
> for
> breezeblock[1]? Normal 'Rawl' type plugs don't seem to work too well as
> the
> breeze block fragments slightly when it's being drilled - thus giving a
> larger uneven hole. I found that sticking quick drying polyfilla found the
> plug and then inserting did a reasonable job but I;m sure there are proper
> fixings - hence any recommendations?
>

Rawl do a special fixing for that type of brick.
It's a threaded sort of thing that screws into the block after drilling. You
then screw into that.

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[Grimly Curmudgeon]

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk>
saying something like:

>On a different note, any recommendations on what plug fixing type to use for
>breezeblock[1]? Normal 'Rawl' type plugs don't seem to work too well as the
>breeze block fragments slightly when it's being drilled - thus giving a
>larger uneven hole. I found that sticking quick drying polyfilla found the
>plug and then inserting did a reasonable job but I;m sure there are proper
>fixings - hence any recommendations?
>
>
>[1] grey cement type block with a not particularly dense structure - nothing
>like brick.

That's those foam concrete blocks - a total pain in the arse, they are.
You can whittle a wooden plug and gently bash it into the hole. In this
case, the old tricks are the best.

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

[Robbo]

> Clearing out the garage today I came across the bent rear brake lever from
> the first bin of the SV, 3 and a bit years ago. The thought that occured
> to
> was "Hmm, I'd just use it like that these days" :-)
>
> On a different note, any recommendations on what plug fixing type to use
> for
> breezeblock[1]? Normal 'Rawl' type plugs don't seem to work too well as
> the
> breeze block fragments slightly when it's being drilled - thus giving a
> larger uneven hole. I found that sticking quick drying polyfilla found the
> plug and then inserting did a reasonable job but I;m sure there are proper
> fixings - hence any recommendations?


OI!
Look at this lot

http://www.tackburn.co.uk/loden-anchors.html


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B.O.S.M 2003, 2004
FURSWB#1 KotL..YTC449
PM#7
..

[Mike Hill]

On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:05:25 -0000, "Greybeard"
<daz@foxtails{dot}.co.{dot}uk> wrote:

>
>"dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:34dd5aF46c16dU1@individual.net...
>> Clearing out the garage today I came across the bent rear brake lever from
>> the first bin of the SV, 3 and a bit years ago. The thought that occured
>> to
>> was "Hmm, I'd just use it like that these days" :-)
>>
>> On a different note, any recommendations on what plug fixing type to use
>> for
>> breezeblock[1]? Normal 'Rawl' type plugs don't seem to work too well as
>> the
>> breeze block fragments slightly when it's being drilled - thus giving a
>> larger uneven hole. I found that sticking quick drying polyfilla found the
>> plug and then inserting did a reasonable job but I;m sure there are proper
>> fixings - hence any recommendations?
>>
>
>Rawl do a special fixing for that type of brick.
>It's a threaded sort of thing that screws into the block after drilling. You
>then screw into that.

I use 50mm long 10mm nylon plugs with 75mm 8mm coach screws myself.
Never does any damage to the block and I hang huge speakers and
widescreen TV's on them.

Screwfix :
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?ts=98654&id=13756
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?ts=98787&id=13425
Just push the plug in 20mm then fit the screw. If you're not hanging
anything too heave, then the 50mm screw will be fine.

Mike.
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[dwb]

Robbo wrote:
>
>
> OI!
> Look at this lot
>
> http://www.tackburn.co.uk/loden-anchors.html

Ta - was kind of looking for something I could buy in the Focus/B&Q - that
type of thing.

ie. walk in and buy rather than order and wait.

[TW]

parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk said...
> On a different note, any recommendations on what plug fixing type to use for
> breezeblock[1]? Normal 'Rawl' type plugs don't seem to work too well as the
> breeze block fragments slightly when it's being drilled - thus giving a
> larger uneven hole. I found that sticking quick drying polyfilla found the
> plug and then inserting did a reasonable job but I;m sure there are proper
> fixings - hence any recommendations?

I've put loads of shelves/hooks up in my garage that has breezeblock
walls, just using normal plastic rawlplugs. Like someone else said, use
a low speed drill and non-hammer setting to drill a clean hole. I just
used a cordless drill with a standard (non-masonry) bit.

[dwb]

TW wrote:
> parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk said...
>> On a different note, any recommendations on what plug fixing type to
>> use for breezeblock[1]? Normal 'Rawl' type plugs don't seem to work
>> too well as the breeze block fragments slightly when it's being
>> drilled - thus giving a larger uneven hole. I found that sticking
>> quick drying polyfilla found the plug and then inserting did a
>> reasonable job but I;m sure there are proper fixings - hence any
>> recommendations?
>
> I've put loads of shelves/hooks up in my garage that has breezeblock
> walls, just using normal plastic rawlplugs. Like someone else said,
> use a low speed drill and non-hammer setting to drill a clean hole. I
> just used a cordless drill with a standard (non-masonry) bit.

This could be the problem - I've been using a masonary bit + hammer drill
thinking nothing would happen otherwise (as it does with brick) - I will
give the normal setting a try.

[Dave Emerson]

"dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk> wrote in message
news:34dp3dF4a3iv9U1@individual.net...
> TW wrote:
>> parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk said...
>>> On a different note, any recommendations on what plug fixing type to
>>> use for breezeblock[1]? Normal 'Rawl' type plugs don't seem to work
>>> too well as the breeze block fragments slightly when it's being
>>> drilled - thus giving a larger uneven hole. I found that sticking
>>> quick drying polyfilla found the plug and then inserting did a
>>> reasonable job but I;m sure there are proper fixings - hence any
>>> recommendations?
>>
>> I've put loads of shelves/hooks up in my garage that has breezeblock
>> walls, just using normal plastic rawlplugs. Like someone else said,
>> use a low speed drill and non-hammer setting to drill a clean hole. I
>> just used a cordless drill with a standard (non-masonry) bit.
>
> This could be the problem - I've been using a masonary bit + hammer drill
> thinking nothing would happen otherwise (as it does with brick) - I will
> give the normal setting a try.

Try drilling (without hammer) through the plaster and then just pushing and
twisting an old phillips screwdriver in to make the hole in the block. This
compacts the area around the hole, rather than digging the material away,
and makes for a firmer fixture.

Dave

[Steph]

In article <41e1b46d_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
Dave_dot_Emerson@LineOne.net says...
>
> "dwb" <parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:34dp3dF4a3iv9U1@individual.net...
> > TW wrote:
> >> parc_erom@crossdata.co.uk said...
> >>> On a different note, any recommendations on what plug fixing type to
> >>> use for breezeblock[1]? Normal 'Rawl' type plugs don't seem to work
> >>> too well as the breeze block fragments slightly when it's being
> >>> drilled - thus giving a larger uneven hole. I found that sticking
> >>> quick drying polyfilla found the plug and then inserting did a
> >>> reasonable job but I;m sure there are proper fixings - hence any
> >>> recommendations?
> >>
> >> I've put loads of shelves/hooks up in my garage that has breezeblock
> >> walls, just using normal plastic rawlplugs. Like someone else said,
> >> use a low speed drill and non-hammer setting to drill a clean hole. I
> >> just used a cordless drill with a standard (non-masonry) bit.
> >
> > This could be the problem - I've been using a masonary bit + hammer drill
> > thinking nothing would happen otherwise (as it does with brick) - I will
> > give the normal setting a try.
>
> Try drilling (without hammer) through the plaster and then just pushing and
> twisting an old phillips screwdriver in to make the hole in the block. This
> compacts the area around the hole, rather than digging the material away,
> and makes for a firmer fixture.

I drill a 7mm hole (or a smaller pilot hole first if it's being a pig)
fill the hole with "No Nails" and use a bog standard brown rawl plug
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=18493&ts=15883 and a
decent length screw. It won't come out again without taking half the
breeze block with it - but then again who cares?

I've noticed some new screws in the screwfix catalogue which don't
allegedly need plugs at all, but I haven't tried them so I don't know how
good they are:
http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/cat.jsp?cId=100023&ts=15778

Sorry I don't know if the links will work but you can always cut and
paste.

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Steph
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