Re: Fuggit - That's me keeping the L plates a bit longer then :-/

[Ace]

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 18:28:11 +0000, Veggie Dave <Veggie~Dave@127.0.0.1>
wrote:

>Richard Sterry <no_spam@all.ever> wrote the following literary
>masterpiece:
>>I don't care what the instructors might say, but my advice would be to
>>forget all about the back brake in an emergency stop - it's naff all use.
>
>Tell you what, ride a few more bikes before imparting such knowledgeable
>bollocks...

Indeed. He's forgetting that not all bikes have front brakes good
enough to lock or lift the rear, and that on longer, heavier bikes,
the back tyre will still be on the ground even with the front one
locked.

But with a modern sprotsbike, he's absolutely correct.
--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
GSX-R1000K3
BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2

[steve auvache]

Ace wrote
>On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 18:28:11 +0000, Veggie Dave <Veggie~Dave@127.0.0.1>
>wrote:
>
>>Richard Sterry <no_spam@all.ever> wrote the following literary
>>masterpiece:
>>>I don't care what the instructors might say, but my advice would be to
>>>forget all about the back brake in an emergency stop - it's naff all use.
>>
>>Tell you what, ride a few more bikes before imparting such knowledgeable
>>bollocks...
>
>Indeed. He's forgetting that not all bikes have front brakes good
>enough to lock or lift the rear, and that on longer, heavier bikes,
>the back tyre will still be on the ground even with the front one
>locked.

Bollox.

There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
back skip under braking. I know this because I happen to like playing
with my bikes and can be seen braking with the back squirming around on
most days that I go out (usually deliberately). Then again I am a
hooligan.



>But with a modern sprotsbike, he's absolutely correct.

Brake technology old boy, brakes. Not wheelbase.


--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

[Ace]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
<dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:

>Ace wrote

>>Indeed. He's forgetting that not all bikes have front brakes good
>>enough to lock or lift the rear, and that on longer, heavier bikes,
>>the back tyre will still be on the ground even with the front one
>>locked.
>
>Bollox.
>
>There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
>back skip under braking.

No. There is not. The 400/4 I had would not do so. Even when I'd
fettled the front brake (new pads, braided hoses, rebuilt caliper) to
the point where it could lock the front wheel it would not lift the
rear even slightly.

>>But with a modern sprotsbike, he's absolutely correct.
>
>Brake technology old boy, brakes. Not wheelbase.

Nope. Lots of weight, low down, and a long wheelbase will always be
able to keep the rear on the ground no matter how good the front
brake. In any case, it's not the brake itself, but the tyre, which is
the limiting factor.

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
GSX-R1000K3
BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2

[steve auvache]

Ace wrote
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>Ace wrote
>
>>>Indeed. He's forgetting that not all bikes have front brakes good
>>>enough to lock or lift the rear, and that on longer, heavier bikes,
>>>the back tyre will still be on the ground even with the front one
>>>locked.
>>
>>Bollox.
>>
>>There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
>>back skip under braking.
>
>No. There is not. The 400/4 I had would not do so. Even when I'd
>fettled the front brake (new pads, braided hoses, rebuilt caliper) to
>the point where it could lock the front wheel it would not lift the
>rear even slightly.
>
>>>But with a modern sprotsbike, he's absolutely correct.
>>
>>Brake technology old boy, brakes. Not wheelbase.
>
>Nope. Lots of weight,

Well of course, I did forget the effect of a lardy arse in the equation.

I still stand by my point though.


--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

[Ace]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:28:39 +0000, steve auvache
<dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:

>Ace wrote
>>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
>><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:

>>>Brake technology old boy, brakes. Not wheelbase.
>>
>>Nope. Lots of weight,
>
>Well of course, I did forget the effect of a lardy arse in the equation.

Lardy arse? Well, I doubtless weigh more than short & skinny you, but
13 stone (at 6'2") is not exactly lardy, is it?

>I still stand by my point though.

You're still wrong.

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
GSX-R1000K3
BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2

[steve auvache]

Ace wrote
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:28:39 +0000, steve auvache
><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>Ace wrote
>>>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
>>><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>Brake technology old boy, brakes. Not wheelbase.
>>>
>>>Nope. Lots of weight,
>>
>>Well of course, I did forget the effect of a lardy arse in the equation.
>
>Lardy arse? Well, I doubtless weigh more than short & skinny you, but
>13 stone (at 6'2") is not exactly lardy, is it?

Relative innit. 13 stone is lardy when you are struggling to get over
10.

>
>>I still stand by my point though.
>
>You're still wrong.

Gimme a bike, any bike, and I will happily prove otherwise.
>

--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

[Ace]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:39:01 +0000, steve auvache
<dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:

>Ace wrote
>>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:28:39 +0000, steve auvache
>><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Ace wrote
>>>>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
>>>><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Brake technology old boy, brakes. Not wheelbase.
>>>>
>>>>Nope. Lots of weight,

>>>I still stand by my point though.
>>
>>You're still wrong.
>
>Gimme a bike, any bike, and I will happily prove otherwise.

Go and borrow CdC's gertrude, or Platy's fat thing, or any other
heavyweight cruiser for that matter. Or persuade Blaney to let you
borrow the ex-Ace 400/4, for that matter (although he's put a new
front tyre on it, which may give enough more grip to exhibit your
suggested behaviour).



--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
GSX-R1000K3
BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2

[steve auvache]

Ace wrote
>Go and borrow CdC's gertrude,

Oh do **** off, I have standards you know.

> or Platy's fat thing, or any other
>heavyweight cruiser for that matter. Or persuade Blaney to let you
>borrow the ex-Ace 400/4, for that matter (although he's put a new
>front tyre on it, which may give enough more grip to exhibit your
>suggested behaviour).

Snot about the grip at the front, it is about the lack of it at the back
as the weight transfers forward. Over enthusiastic use of the back
brake under hard braking will cause any tyre to skip. Even in the dry
on shellgrip surfaces.


--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

[Veggie Dave]

steve auvache <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote the following literary
masterpiece:
>Gimme a bike, any bike, and I will happily prove otherwise.

Harley. We'll even be kind and give you the girly 883 Sportser

And you will fail

--
Veggie Dave
UKRMHRC#2 BOTAFOF#08
IQ 18 FILMS http://www.iq18films.com
Extreme Racing http://www.veggie-dave.co.uk
Toxic Shock Syndrome Gets More Girls Than Me

[steve auvache]

Veggie Dave wrote
>steve auvache <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote the following literary
>masterpiece:
>>Gimme a bike, any bike, and I will happily prove otherwise.
>
>Harley. We'll even be kind and give you the girly 883 Sportser

Be fair Dave, give me a proper bike.

>
>And you will fail

Failure is not a word that appears in my vocabulary.


--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

[Bear]

In article <7umyngCqIo4BFw6$@thecow.me.uk>, steve auvache says...
> Veggie Dave wrote

> >And you will fail
>
> Failure is not a word that appears in my vocabulary.

Be fair, there are loads of words that don't appear in your dictionary.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Ben Blaney]

Ace wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:39:01 +0000, steve auvache
><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>Gimme a bike, any bike, and I will happily prove otherwise.
>
>Go and borrow CdC's gertrude, or Platy's fat thing, or any other
>heavyweight cruiser for that matter. Or persuade Blaney to let you
>borrow the ex-Ace 400/4, for that matter (although he's put a new
>front tyre on it

Have I?

I thought I rode it to my Uncle's place and dumped it there, in a
garage with a MG Roadster that hasn't moved in four years.

I flew back to Qatar a couple of hours later, and haven't seen it
since. I don't think anyone else has, either.

--
Ben Blaney

[Ace]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:37:21 +0300, Ben Blaney <m7@privacy.net> wrote:

>Ace wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:39:01 +0000, steve auvache
>><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Gimme a bike, any bike, and I will happily prove otherwise.
>>
>>Go and borrow CdC's gertrude, or Platy's fat thing, or any other
>>heavyweight cruiser for that matter. Or persuade Blaney to let you
>>borrow the ex-Ace 400/4, for that matter (although he's put a new
>>front tyre on it
>
>Have I?

Didn't they fit a new one when you got a puncture on the way up to the
channel? You certainly told me they were going to.

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
GSX-R1000K3
BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2

[Ben Blaney]

Ace wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 17:37:21 +0300, Ben Blaney <m7@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Ace wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:39:01 +0000, steve auvache
>>><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Gimme a bike, any bike, and I will happily prove otherwise.
>>>
>>>Go and borrow CdC's gertrude, or Platy's fat thing, or any other
>>>heavyweight cruiser for that matter. Or persuade Blaney to let you
>>>borrow the ex-Ace 400/4, for that matter (although he's put a new
>>>front tyre on it
>>
>>Have I?
>
>Didn't they fit a new one when you got a puncture on the way up to the
>channel? You certainly told me they were going to.

<dim bulb>

Oh yeah.

--
Ben Blaney

[Lozzo]

steve auvache says...
> Ace wrote
> >On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 18:28:11 +0000, Veggie Dave <Veggie~Dave@127.0.0.1>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Richard Sterry <no_spam@all.ever> wrote the following literary
> >>masterpiece:
> >>>I don't care what the instructors might say, but my advice would be to
> >>>forget all about the back brake in an emergency stop - it's naff all use.
> >>
> >>Tell you what, ride a few more bikes before imparting such knowledgeable
> >>bollocks...
> >
> >Indeed. He's forgetting that not all bikes have front brakes good
> >enough to lock or lift the rear, and that on longer, heavier bikes,
> >the back tyre will still be on the ground even with the front one
> >locked.
>
> Bollox.
>
> There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
> back skip under braking.

Bollocks. I defy you to even slow down using the pefectly set up front
disc on my Honda.

The CB250RS is sitting outside waiting for you to come along and blag a
ride. Permission on the day not needed, just tell Pip you can take it
out. You bend it, you hammer it straight again.

--
Lozzo
ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[Lozzo]

Bear says...
> In article <7umyngCqIo4BFw6$@thecow.me.uk>, steve auvache says...
> > Veggie Dave wrote
>
> > >And you will fail
> >
> > Failure is not a word that appears in my vocabulary.
>
> Be fair, there are loads of words that don't appear in your dictionary.

Sex, shag, orgasm, long, life, ahead.

--
Lozzo
ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[Salad Dodger]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
<dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:

>There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
>back skip under braking.

<points at KH500, throws down gauntlet>
--
| ___ Salad Dodger
|/ \
_/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
|_\_____/_| ..73066../..17485.../..3184./.19406
(>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
|__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
\ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
\|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4
'^'

[Salad Dodger]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:07:03 +0000, Salad Dodger
<salad.dodger@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
>>back skip under braking.
>
><points at KH500, throws down gauntlet>

<thinks a bit more>

<points at GL1500>

--
| ___ Salad Dodger
|/ \
_/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
|_\_____/_| ..73066../..17485.../..3184./.19406
(>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
|__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
\ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
\|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4
'^'

[steve auvache]

Salad Dodger wrote
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
>>back skip under braking.
>
><points at KH500, throws down gauntlet>

I have never had so many offers to ride other peoples Sobs. You lot
like me do you?


--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

[steve auvache]

Salad Dodger wrote
>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:07:03 +0000, Salad Dodger
><salad.dodger@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
>><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
>>>back skip under braking.
>>
>><points at KH500, throws down gauntlet>
>
><thinks a bit more>
>
><points at GL1500>

If I could get it off the side stand I would give it go.


--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

[steve auvache]

Lozzo wrote
>
>Bollocks. I defy you to even slow down using the pefectly set up front
>disc on my Honda.

Snigle disk? They don't work on Hondas.



--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

[Lozzo]

steve auvache says...
> Salad Dodger wrote
> >On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
> ><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
> >>back skip under braking.
> >
> ><points at KH500, throws down gauntlet>
>
> I have never had so many offers to ride other peoples Sobs. You lot
> like me do you?

Haven't you noticed that the only bikes you're being offered are the
ones with _no_ _****ing_ _brakes_?

--
Lozzo
ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[Lozzo]

steve auvache says...
> Lozzo wrote
> >
> >Bollocks. I defy you to even slow down using the pefectly set up front
> >disc on my Honda.
>
> Snigle disk? They don't work on Hondas.

VF400F one worked fine. I don't know what all that worry and **** about
inboard discs was all about, I found them ok.

--
Lozzo
ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[steve auvache]

Lozzo wrote
> steve auvache says...
>> Salad Dodger wrote
>> >On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
>> ><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >>There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
>> >>back skip under braking.
>> >
>> ><points at KH500, throws down gauntlet>
>>
>> I have never had so many offers to ride other peoples Sobs. You lot
>> like me do you?
>
>Haven't you noticed that the only bikes you're being offered are the
>ones with _no_ _****ing_ _brakes_?

Yes I had actually four eyes and you may have noticed I have not
accepted any of the offers.


--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

[platypus]

steve auvache wrote:
> Salad Dodger wrote
>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:07:03 +0000, Salad Dodger
>> <salad.dodger@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
>>> <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make
>>>> the back skip under braking.
>>>
>>> <points at KH500, throws down gauntlet>
>>
>> <thinks a bit more>
>>
>> <points at GL1500>
>
> If I could get it off the side stand I would give it go.

<waves Z200>

--
platypus

no need to ask

[Christopher Des Clayes]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:07:03 +0000, Salad Dodger
<salad.dodger@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:12:50 +0000, steve auvache
><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
>>back skip under braking.
>
><points at KH500, throws down gauntlet>

Points at Gertrude, laughs.


--
Chris Des Clayes (Header addresses are munged)
Reply to chris@ffcc.powernet.co.uk, but remove one "f"
VN1500 Drifter (Gertrude) - Twice the fun at half the speed.
Barrel Bikers (Buckingham) MCC (www.barrelbikers.co.uk) UKMC#9

[steve auvache]

Christopher Des Clayes wrote

>
>Points at Gertrude, laughs.

Yes but everybody does that.


--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

[Christopher Des Clayes]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:30:54 +0000, steve auvache
<dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:

>Christopher Des Clayes wrote
>
>>
>>Points at Gertrude, laughs.
>
>Yes but everybody does that.

She doesn't care, she knows _I_ love her.

And nobody will get her arse in the air by applying the front brake.
The front tyre breaks traction first.
--
Chris Des Clayes (Header addresses are munged)
Reply to chris@ffcc.powernet.co.uk, but remove one "f"
VN1500 Drifter (Gertrude) - Twice the fun at half the speed.
Barrel Bikers (Buckingham) MCC (www.barrelbikers.co.uk) UKMC#9

[Bear]

In article <r216u0t868c16mqlr6ktjab5ajpa746q4q@4ax.com>, Christopher Des
Clayes says...
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:30:54 +0000, steve auvache
> <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
> >Christopher Des Clayes wrote
> >
> >>
> >>Points at Gertrude, laughs.
> >
> >Yes but everybody does that.
>
> She doesn't care, she knows _I_ love her.
>
> And nobody will get her arse in the air by applying the front brake.
> The front tyre breaks traction first.

I can't say I'm surprised ... she's like the Forth Bridge on wheels.

And I mean that in a nice way.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Muck]

Christopher Des Clayes wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:30:54 +0000, steve auvache
> <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Christopher Des Clayes wrote
>>
>>
>>>Points at Gertrude, laughs.
>>
>>Yes but everybody does that.
>
>
> She doesn't care, she knows _I_ love her.
>
> And nobody will get her arse in the air by applying the front brake.
> The front tyre breaks traction first.

Trying that sort of thing on my FZR would end in the pillion seat
hitting you in the back of the head. :)

--
Bandit 600; CG125; FZR250RR; DS#1 ; DOMO#1 ; SH#2 ; SKoGA#7 ; BOMB#16
"CG125 the most fun you can have at Mach 0.08539"
Remove _TEETH_ to e-mail

[The Older Gentleman]

steve auvache <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:

> There is enough slowdown force from any (disk) front brake to make the
> back skip under braking.

There was enough force from the cable front disc on my CB200 to.....

er.....

....to make the forks dip. A bit.


--
Trophy 1200 (Doctored) 750SS CB400F CD200 ST70 DT50MX
GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

[Christopher Des Clayes]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:00:43 +0000, Muck <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net>
wrote:

>Christopher Des Clayes wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:30:54 +0000, steve auvache
>> <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Christopher Des Clayes wrote
>>>
>>>
>>>>Points at Gertrude, laughs.
>>>
>>>Yes but everybody does that.
>>
>>
>> She doesn't care, she knows _I_ love her.
>>
>> And nobody will get her arse in the air by applying the front brake.
>> The front tyre breaks traction first.
>
>Trying that sort of thing on my FZR would end in the pillion seat
>hitting you in the back of the head. :)

Gertrude's about 8.5 feet long and weighs 700lb even before I sit on
her.

--
Chris Des Clayes (Header addresses are munged)
Reply to chris@ffcc.powernet.co.uk, but remove one "f"
VN1500 Drifter (Gertrude) - Twice the fun at half the speed.
Barrel Bikers (Buckingham) MCC (www.barrelbikers.co.uk) UKMC#9

[Muck]

Christopher Des Clayes wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 23:00:43 +0000, Muck <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Christopher Des Clayes wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:30:54 +0000, steve auvache
>>><dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Christopher Des Clayes wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Points at Gertrude, laughs.
>>>>
>>>>Yes but everybody does that.
>>>
>>>
>>>She doesn't care, she knows _I_ love her.
>>>
>>>And nobody will get her arse in the air by applying the front brake.
>>>The front tyre breaks traction first.
>>
>>Trying that sort of thing on my FZR would end in the pillion seat
>>hitting you in the back of the head. :)
>
>
> Gertrude's about 8.5 feet long and weighs 700lb even before I sit on
> her.
>

Blimey.

--
Bandit 600; CG125; FZR250RR; DS#1 ; DOMO#1 ; SH#2 ; SKoGA#7 ; BOMB#16
"CG125 the most fun you can have at Mach 0.08539"
Remove _TEETH_ to e-mail

[Ace]

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:20:11 +0300, Ben Blaney <m7@privacy.net> wrote:

>Ace wrote:

>>>Have I?
>>
>>Didn't they fit a new one when you got a puncture on the way up to the
>>channel? You certainly told me they were going to.
>
><dim bulb>
>
>Oh yeah.

Memory like a... err, kitchen doodah... err... a metal thing with
holes in it...

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
GSX-R1000K3
BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2

[Salad Dodger]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:51:26 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:20:11 +0300, Ben Blaney <m7@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>Ace wrote:
>
>>>>Have I?
>>>
>>>Didn't they fit a new one when you got a puncture on the way up to the
>>>channel? You certainly told me they were going to.
>>
>><dim bulb>
>>
>>Oh yeah.
>
>Memory like a... err, kitchen doodah... err... a metal thing with
>holes in it...

Bismarck?
--
| ___ Salad Dodger
|/ \
_/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
|_\_____/_| ..73066../..17485.../..3184./.19406
(>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
|__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
\ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
\|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4
'^'

[Salad Dodger]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:25:38 +0000, Muck <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net>
wrote:

>Christopher Des Clayes wrote:
>>
>> Gertrude's about 8.5 feet long and weighs 700lb even before I sit on
>> her.
>>
>
>Blimey.

Pah.

--
| ___ Salad Dodger
|/ \
_/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
|_\_____/_| ..73066../..17485.../..3184./.19406
(>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
|__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
\ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
\|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4
'^'

[Christopher Des Clayes]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:57:31 +0000, Salad Dodger
<salad.dodger@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:25:38 +0000, Muck <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Christopher Des Clayes wrote:
>>>
>>> Gertrude's about 8.5 feet long and weighs 700lb even before I sit on
>>> her.
>>>
>>
>>Blimey.
>
>Pah.

Is that a size-ist "Pah"?

OK, I know Gertrude and I pale into insignificance beside a Winged
Dodger, but these things are relative.
--
Chris Des Clayes (Header addresses are munged)
Reply to chris@ffcc.powernet.co.uk, but remove one "f"
VN1500 Drifter (Gertrude) - Twice the fun at half the speed.
Barrel Bikers (Buckingham) MCC (www.barrelbikers.co.uk) UKMC#9

[Champ]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:17:24 +0000, Christopher Des Clayes
<Chris@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>>>> Gertrude's about 8.5 feet long and weighs 700lb even before I sit on
>>>> her.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Blimey.
>>
>>Pah.
>
>Is that a size-ist "Pah"?
>
>OK, I know Gertrude and I pale into insignificance beside a Winged
>Dodger, but these things are relative.

Heh. "The Wingéd Dodger". Sounds like a greek hero.
--
Champ

[platypus]

Champ wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:17:24 +0000, Christopher Des Clayes
> <Chris@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>>>> Gertrude's about 8.5 feet long and weighs 700lb even before I sit
>>>>> on her.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blimey.
>>>
>>> Pah.
>>
>> Is that a size-ist "Pah"?
>>
>> OK, I know Gertrude and I pale into insignificance beside a Winged
>> Dodger, but these things are relative.
>
> Heh. "The Wingéd Dodger". Sounds like a greek hero.

But at my back I always hear
Dodger's wingéd chariot hurrying near

--
platypus

no need to ask

[Nigel Eaton]

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
<news@champ.org.uk> typed
>On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:17:24 +0000, Christopher Des Clayes
><Chris@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>>>> Gertrude's about 8.5 feet long and weighs 700lb even before I sit on
>>>>> her.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Blimey.
>>>
>>>Pah.
>>
>>Is that a size-ist "Pah"?
>>
>>OK, I know Gertrude and I pale into insignificance beside a Winged
>>Dodger, but these things are relative.
>
>Heh. "
>The Wingéd Dodger". Sounds like a greek hero.

Some tedious faux-frog cunt will be along shortly to point out that it
should be "The Wingèd Dodger".

So I thought I'd save him the trouble.

--
Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

[Champ]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:54:33 +0000, Nigel Eaton
<nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
><news@champ.org.uk> typed
>>On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:17:24 +0000, Christopher Des Clayes
>><Chris@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Gertrude's about 8.5 feet long and weighs 700lb even before I sit on
>>>>>> her.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Blimey.
>>>>
>>>>Pah.
>>>
>>>Is that a size-ist "Pah"?
>>>
>>>OK, I know Gertrude and I pale into insignificance beside a Winged
>>>Dodger, but these things are relative.
>>
>>Heh. "
>>The Wingéd Dodger". Sounds like a greek hero.
>
>Some tedious faux-frog cunt will be along shortly to point out that it
>should be "The Wingèd Dodger".

If he had, I wouldn't have noticed.

>So I thought I'd save him the trouble.

But I don't know how to make those sort of e's :-(
--
Champ

[Christopher Des Clayes]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:23:43 +0000, Champ <news@champ.org.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:54:33 +0000, Nigel Eaton
><nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
>><news@champ.org.uk> typed
>>>On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:17:24 +0000, Christopher Des Clayes
>>><Chris@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Gertrude's about 8.5 feet long and weighs 700lb even before I sit on
>>>>>>> her.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Blimey.
>>>>>
>>>>>Pah.
>>>>
>>>>Is that a size-ist "Pah"?
>>>>
>>>>OK, I know Gertrude and I pale into insignificance beside a Winged
>>>>Dodger, but these things are relative.
>>>
>>>Heh. "
>>>The Wingéd Dodger". Sounds like a greek hero.
>>
>>Some tedious faux-frog cunt will be along shortly to point out that it
>>should be "The Wingèd Dodger".
>
>If he had, I wouldn't have noticed.
>
>>So I thought I'd save him the trouble.
>
>But I don't know how to make those sort of e's :-(

An acutely embarrassing and grave problem.
--
Chris Des Clayes (Header addresses are munged)
Reply to chris@ffcc.powernet.co.uk, but remove one "f"
VN1500 Drifter (Gertrude) - Twice the fun at half the speed.
Barrel Bikers (Buckingham) MCC (www.barrelbikers.co.uk) UKMC#9

[Lady Nina]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 23:39:28 +0000, Christopher Des Clayes
<Chris@127.0.0.1> wrote:

after someone inconsequential said

>>But I don't know how to make those sort of e's :-(
>
>An acutely embarrassing and grave problem.

*nice*
--
Lady Nina
because I'm in a ****ing bad mood right.