The effects of chocolate

[Lozzo]

At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.

Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years.
2 Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it
didn't make me violent this time.

Me and choccie bars just don't get on.

--
Lozzo
ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[platypus]

Lozzo wrote:
> At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> realised what I was doing.

"The snacking reflex just went out of control, officer."

--
platypus

no need to ask

[Nigel Eaton]

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lozzo
<lozzo@speedyspic.co.uk> typed
>At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
>realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.

You cunt! I'd have had that.

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[Whinging Courier]

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Lozzo wrote:

> At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.
>
> Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years.
> 2 Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
> double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
> effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it
> didn't make me violent this time.
>
> Me and choccie bars just don't get on.

All chocolate or just the cheap ****, mass produced stuff like
Cadbury's?

Tried a milky bar?

--
CBR1000 - Work in progress
BOMB#14 ibW#40

[Lozzo]

Whinging Courier says...
> In uk.rec.motorcycles, Lozzo wrote:

> > Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
>
> All chocolate or just the cheap ****, mass produced stuff like
> Cadbury's?

All chocolate

> Tried a milky bar?

They are worse from what I remember.



--
Lozzo
ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[Whinging Courier]

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Lozzo wrote:

> > > Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
> >
> > All chocolate or just the cheap ****, mass produced stuff like
> > Cadbury's?
>
> All chocolate
>
> > Tried a milky bar?
>
> They are worse from what I remember.

You poor soul. I'd say have a drink but IIRC, that has an unpleasant
effect on you as well.

--
CBR1000 - Work in progress
BOMB#14 ibW#40

[Loz H]

Lozzo <lozzo@speedyspic.co.uk> spewed forth the following...

> At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.

<snip>

I have to ask. How do you eat half a Bounty without realising?



Phenylethylamine or Tyramine are the amines said to cause headaches from
chocolate. Apparently they cause dilation of the blood vessels in the brain,
which then brings on the headaches.

So now you know. :o)

--
Loz H
~ Hairy, Ugly and Fat ~
CB550F CB200

[Muck]

Lozzo wrote:
> At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.
>
> Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years.
> 2 Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
> double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
> effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it
> didn't make me violent this time.
>
> Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
>

Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
bad effects on me.

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[Lozzo]

Loz H says...
> Lozzo <lozzo@speedyspic.co.uk> spewed forth the following...
>
> > At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> > realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.
>
> <snip>
>
> I have to ask. How do you eat half a Bounty without realising?

Memory problems and the fact that I still have a terrible habit of
buying chocolate even though I can't eat it. Pip and Elly don't seem to
mind, cos it ends up at home uneaten. I love the taste of the stuff,
just can't get on with it.

> Phenylethylamine or Tyramine are the amines said to cause headaches from
> chocolate. Apparently they cause dilation of the blood vessels in the brain,
> which then brings on the headaches.
>
> So now you know. :o)

So I do.

--
Lozzo
ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[Steph]

In article <MPG.1c4d2e61388d2f859898ca@news.individual.net>,
lozzo@speedyspic.co.uk says...
> At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.
>
> Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years.
> 2 Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
> double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
> effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it
> didn't make me violent this time.
>
> Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
>
>
For future reference Syndol:
http://www.mypharmacy.co.uk/medicines/medicines/s/syndol/syndol.htm

works for me. AAMOF 2 of them has me spaced out for the afternoon as I
found out on Saturday (fell over at work and cracked the side of my
face/eye against some wooden Koi vats).

I don't know why these tablets work so much better than other stuff
containing caffiene etc, but I think it's the doxylamine which helps.

God knows what I sold to the customers on Saturday as I have a mental
block, I can't remember driving home either though whether that was the
syndol or the bump to the head I'm not sure.

--
Steph

[Lozzo]

Steph says...
> In article <MPG.1c4d2e61388d2f859898ca@news.individual.net>,
> lozzo@speedyspic.co.uk says...
> > At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> > realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.
> >
> > Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years.
> > 2 Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
> > double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
> > effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it
> > didn't make me violent this time.
> >
> > Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
> >
> >
> For future reference Syndol:
> http://www.mypharmacy.co.uk/medicines/medicines/s/syndol/syndol.htm
>
> works for me. AAMOF 2 of them has me spaced out for the afternoon as I
> found out on Saturday
<snip>

That's enough for me to say I won't ever take them. Anything that makes
me feel like I'm not in control of myself is a no-no.

--
Lozzo
ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[Steph]

In article <MPG.1c4d447339a40fe89898d1@news.individual.net>,
lozzo@speedyspic.co.uk says...
> Steph says...
> > In article <MPG.1c4d2e61388d2f859898ca@news.individual.net>,
> > lozzo@speedyspic.co.uk says...
> > > At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> > > realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.
> > >
> > > Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years.
> > > 2 Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
> > > double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
> > > effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it
> > > didn't make me violent this time.
> > >
> > > Me and choccie bars just don't get on.

<snip>

> That's enough for me to say I won't ever take them. Anything that makes
> me feel like I'm not in control of myself is a no-no.

Strange, doesn't alcohol ever have that effect on you?
>

I do know what you mean though - hence I don't smoke anything other than
tobacco as a rule (unless I'm drunk and then it just makes me sick).
However I did feel as if I'd been drinking after taking these tablets and
drunk enough to make me chill out. "Spaced out" was perhaps not the
right term, but you know that feeling after a few drinks where you could
just lie down and sleep regardless of where you are?

Anyway, I just thought it may be an option if your chocolate headache
hadn't gone by morning. Luckily I don't have that problem when I eat
chocolate - being a stereotypical female I'd be miserable without the
occasional 2kg bar of galaxy. I do get hellish headaches though if I
don't have coffee for a couple of days.
--
Steph

[Bear]

In article <MPG.1c4d2e61388d2f859898ca@news.individual.net>, Lozzo
says...
> At least it didn't make me violent this time.

I'm amazed, given the stories about you on chocolate, that you managed
to eat one without realising.

In the event of an invasion, you and a large Bourneville are our only
hope ...
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Bear]

In article <MPG.1c4d31a0a6742a1b989ecc@news.individual.net>, Whinging
Courier says...

> All chocolate or just the cheap ****, mass produced stuff like
> Cadbury's?
>
> Tried a milky bar?

Tried Bourneville? It's a shedload less messed about with than milky
bars.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Bear]

In article <41e32a10$0$19166$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com>, Muck
says...

> For
> some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
> bad effects on me.

lol. Lovely post :)
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Bear]

In article <MPG.1c4d447339a40fe89898d1@news.individual.net>, Lozzo
says...
> Anything that makes
> me feel like I'm not in control of myself is a no-no.

Attention ukrm: no black russians for Loz again, ever.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[martin]

"Muck" <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote in message
news:41e32a10$0$19166$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> Lozzo wrote:
> > At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> > realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.
> >
> > Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years.
> > 2 Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
> > double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
> > effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it
> > didn't make me violent this time.
> >
> > Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
> >
>
> Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
> some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
> bad effects on me.
>
> --
> Bandit 600; CG125; FZR250RR; DS#1 ; DOMO#1 ; SH#2 ; SKoGA#7 ; BOMB#16
> "CG125 the most fun you can have at Mach 0.08539"
> Remove _TEETH_ to e-mail

I don't even want to know why you tried eating those.... :-\

Martin
Blade

[The Older Gentleman]

Muck <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote:

> Lozzo wrote:
> > At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> > realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.
> >
> > Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years.
> > 2 Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
> > double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
> > effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it
> > didn't make me violent this time.
> >
> > Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
> >
>
> Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
> some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
> bad effects on me.


That's ruff!


--
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BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....

[Eiron]

Muck wrote:


> Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
> some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
> bad effects on me.

Dog choccies are not chocolate as chocolate has bad effects on canine
health. Draw your own conclusions....

--
Eiron.

[Paul Hendrick]

"Lozzo" <lozzo@speedyspic.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c4d2e61388d2f859898ca@news.individual.ne t...
> At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
> realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.
>
> Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years.
> 2 Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
> double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
> effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it
> didn't make me violent this time.
>
> Me and choccie bars just don't get on.

Nurofen Plus is the only thing I've found that works for my migraines. Give
it a go, may help next time. That and passing the chocolate here:o)

--
Jen
R1 04
aka BRC

[Rope]

Muck spoke:
> > Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
> >
> Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
> some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
> bad effects on me.

From the packet of Max's Xmyth Choco Holic Bar:
Wheat Flour, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil, Sugar, Fat Reduced Cocoa Powder,
Emulsifier, (Lecithin E322), Vitamins.

HTH

--
Rob_P
UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk
uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl)
FJ1200, CCM130
Rebel without a clue

[Whinging Courier]

In uk.rec.motorcycles, martin wrote:

> > Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
> > some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
> > bad effects on me.

> I don't even want to know why you tried eating those.... :-\

Turkey cat biscuits aren't bad.

--
CBR1000 - Work in progress
BOMB#14 ibW#40

[Doesnotcompute]

Lozzo said:

>Memory problems

If you can't remember that you react badly to chocolate, you really need
to get yourself seen to matey.

>and the fact that I still have a terrible habit of
>buying chocolate even though I can't eat it.

well, that's just daft really, innit?

--
Dnc

[Muck]

Whinging Courier wrote:
> In uk.rec.motorcycles, martin wrote:
>
>
>>>Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
>>>some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
>>>bad effects on me.
>
>
>>I don't even want to know why you tried eating those.... :-\
>
>
> Turkey cat biscuits aren't bad.
>

We've got a pet food warehouse near by, they had a bin full of those
chocolate bones. I was hungry, and they looked nice, so I got a bag full.

That reminds me, I must drop by again to get another supply.

--
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"CG125 the most fun you can have at Mach 0.08539"
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[Whinging Courier]

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Muck wrote:

> > Turkey cat biscuits aren't bad.
> >
>
> We've got a pet food warehouse near by, they had a bin full of those
> chocolate bones. I was hungry, and they looked nice, so I got a bag full.

I used to deliver dried pet foods to shops but before I did I had to put
it all into smaller bags from the sacks it came in by machine. I used to
scoff loads of stuff when the boss wasn't there. Everything from wild
bird nuts to chocci drops but I used to eat the cat biscuits as well. I
drew the line at those 'marro-bone' dog biscuits though.

> That reminds me, I must drop by again to get another supply.

If they've got any, try the parrot mix, the sunflower seeds are
excellent.

--
CBR1000 - Work in progress
BOMB#14 ibW#40

[Muck]

Whinging Courier wrote:
> In uk.rec.motorcycles, Muck wrote:
>
>
>>>Turkey cat biscuits aren't bad.
>>>
>>
>>We've got a pet food warehouse near by, they had a bin full of those
>>chocolate bones. I was hungry, and they looked nice, so I got a bag full.
>
>
> I used to deliver dried pet foods to shops but before I did I had to put
> it all into smaller bags from the sacks it came in by machine. I used to
> scoff loads of stuff when the boss wasn't there. Everything from wild
> bird nuts to chocci drops but I used to eat the cat biscuits as well. I
> drew the line at those 'marro-bone' dog biscuits though.
>

I'm not sure I'd eat anything that said marrow bone on it either. You've
got to have some standards. :)

>>That reminds me, I must drop by again to get another supply.
>
>
> If they've got any, try the parrot mix, the sunflower seeds are
> excellent.
>

I'll have a look round when I go there.

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[Whinging Courier]

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Muck wrote:

> I'm not sure I'd eat anything that said marrow bone on it either. You've
> got to have some standards. :)

It was the texture that put me off, the outside roll bit was pure
biscuit but the filling was was dodgy and had what I guess is ground out
bones and stuff in. It was very gritty feeling and I didn't fancy the
smell much. Sort of Oxo cube meets cow poo.

> > If they've got any, try the parrot mix, the sunflower seeds are
> > excellent.
> >
>
> I'll have a look round when I go there.

Do they just let you pilfer it then or do you have an arrangement?

--
CBR1000 - Work in progress
BOMB#14 ibW#40

[zymurgy@technologist.com]

FWIW, Cat IAMS are horrible. Can't see they they eat them ;-) [1]

HTH

Paul.

[1] Well, I saw the cat noshing on them like they were really tasty, so
I was curious [2]
[2] ok ? ;)

[Whinging Courier]

In uk.rec.motorcycles, wrote:

> FWIW, Cat IAMS are horrible. Can't see they they eat them ;-) [1]

Never tried IAMS.

> [1] Well, I saw the cat noshing on them like they were really tasty, so
> I was curious [2]
> [2] ok ? ;)

I once ate a chunk of Whiskas, I forget the flavour but it was in a
green labelled tin and that didn't taste very nice.

--
CBR1000 - Work in progress
BOMB#14 ibW#40

[Muck]

Whinging Courier wrote:
<snip>
>>I'll have a look round when I go there.
>
>
> Do they just let you pilfer it then or do you have an arrangement?
>

I just buy them.

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[Bear]

In article <1105444065.354863.153620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>,
says...
> FWIW, Cat IAMS are horrible. Can't see they they eat them ;-) [1]
>
> HTH
>
> Paul.
>
> [1] Well, I saw the cat noshing on them like they were really tasty, so
> I was curious [2]
> [2] ok ? ;)

Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
taste cat food ... sod that.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Muck]

Bear wrote:
> In article <1105444065.354863.153620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>,
> says...
>
>>FWIW, Cat IAMS are horrible. Can't see they they eat them ;-) [1]
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>Paul.
>>
>>[1] Well, I saw the cat noshing on them like they were really tasty, so
>>I was curious [2]
>>[2] ok ? ;)
>
>
> Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
> taste cat food ... sod that.

Animal foods only tend to smell bad, not taste bad... apparently.. *cough*

--
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[flash]

"Muck" <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote in message
news:41e3dc21$0$16575$cc9e4d1f@news-

> > Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
> > taste cat food ... sod that.
>
> Animal foods only tend to smell bad, not taste bad... apparently.. *cough*
>

My cats get tesco's economy cat food at 15p a tin. It comes in one flavour -
cat food flavour - and I find it deeply unpleasant just forking it out of
the tin, I would not want to taste it.

[Bear]

In article <34i4lbF4b9nnoU1@individual.net>, flash says...
>
> "Muck" <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote in message
> news:41e3dc21$0$16575$cc9e4d1f@news-
>
> > > Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
> > > taste cat food ... sod that.
> >
> > Animal foods only tend to smell bad, not taste bad... apparently.. *cough*
>
> My cats get tesco's economy cat food at 15p a tin. It comes in one flavour -
> cat food flavour - and I find it deeply unpleasant just forking it out of
> the tin, I would not want to taste it.

My thoughts exactly ... I *hate* the smell of cat food :(

I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
isn't good for them?
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Nigel Eaton]

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
<bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> typed
>In article <34i4lbF4b9nnoU1@individual.net>, flash says...
>>
>> "Muck" <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote in message
>> news:41e3dc21$0$16575$cc9e4d1f@news-
>>
>> > > Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
>> > > taste cat food ... sod that.
>> >
>> > Animal foods only tend to smell bad, not taste bad... apparently.. *cough*
>>
>> My cats get tesco's economy cat food at 15p a tin. It comes in one flavour -
>> cat food flavour - and I find it deeply unpleasant just forking it out of
>> the tin, I would not want to taste it.
>
>My thoughts exactly ... I *hate* the smell of cat food :(
>
>I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
>puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
>isn't good for them?

One of my moggies has IBS[1] and can only eat dried food. The other one
loves the stuff, so we asked the vet if it's OK for them both to eat it
exclusively[2]. He reckons it's no problem so long as they have access
to fresh water.

[1] Don't ask. Don't. ****ing. Ask.
[2] Well, apart from the stuff they catch.
--
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[AndrewR]

Bear wrote:

> I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
> puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
> isn't good for them?

Mick's cats only ever get dried food.

Mind you, that may just be because he's tight.

--
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[Bear]

In article <RMIk6v6qF+4BJwk4@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>, Nigel Eaton says...
> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
> <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> typed
> >In article <34i4lbF4b9nnoU1@individual.net>, flash says...
> >>
> >> "Muck" <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote in message
> >> news:41e3dc21$0$16575$cc9e4d1f@news-
> >>
> >> > > Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
> >> > > taste cat food ... sod that.
> >> >
> >> > Animal foods only tend to smell bad, not taste bad... apparently.. *cough*
> >>
> >> My cats get tesco's economy cat food at 15p a tin. It comes in one flavour -
> >> cat food flavour - and I find it deeply unpleasant just forking it out of
> >> the tin, I would not want to taste it.
> >
> >My thoughts exactly ... I *hate* the smell of cat food :(
> >
> >I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
> >puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
> >isn't good for them?
>
> One of my moggies has IBS[1] and can only eat dried food. The other one
> loves the stuff, so we asked the vet if it's OK for them both to eat it
> exclusively[2]. He reckons it's no problem so long as they have access
> to fresh water.

Ah right ... maybe the dried foods have got much better the last few
years coz I remember cat owners telling me using 100% dried food was bad
a while back.

> [1] Don't ask. Don't. ****ing. Ask.

Ewwwwww.
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[Ace]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:19:39 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
>puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
>isn't good for them?

Not sure about that; most brands claim to be a 'complete' food, so I
guess it should be OK. Ours get both, but are much more enthusiastic
about the wet stuff, presumably just because the crunchies are always
there. But I'm happy to leave them for a couple of days with just
plenty of the dry.

Got a new kitten[1] last week and bought some special kitten food, wet
and dry, both of which the others think is wonderful. She seems happy
to eat just about anything :-}

[1] A real cutie, but then aren't they all?
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[petrolcan]

the cont known as Nigel Eaton says...
>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
><bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> typed
>>In article <34i4lbF4b9nnoU1@individual.net>, flash says...
>>>
>>> "Muck" <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote in message
>>> news:41e3dc21$0$16575$cc9e4d1f@news-
>>>
>>> > > Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
>>> > > taste cat food ... sod that.
>>> >
>>> > Animal foods only tend to smell bad, not taste bad... apparently.. *cough*
>>>
>>> My cats get tesco's economy cat food at 15p a tin. It comes in one flavour -
>>> cat food flavour - and I find it deeply unpleasant just forking it out of
>>> the tin, I would not want to taste it.
>>
>>My thoughts exactly ... I *hate* the smell of cat food :(
>>
>>I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
>>puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
>>isn't good for them?
>
>One of my moggies has IBS[1] and can only eat dried food. The other one
>loves the stuff, so we asked the vet if it's OK for them both to eat it
>exclusively[2]. He reckons it's no problem so long as they have access
>to fresh water.
>
>[1] Don't ask. Don't. ****ing. Ask.

Bag, brick, river. YKIMS.

--
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[Toby Augh-Nottoby]

"Bear" <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c4de8b12e2c13a9989a61@News.individual.ne t...
> In article <1105444065.354863.153620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>,
> says...
>> FWIW, Cat IAMS are horrible. Can't see they they eat them ;-) [1]
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>> [1] Well, I saw the cat noshing on them like they were really tasty, so
>> I was curious [2]
>> [2] ok ? ;)
>
> Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
> taste cat food ... sod that.

Not so bad. It used to be a doctor's job, when testing for diabetes, to
taste the patient's piss.

[Muck]

petrolcan wrote:
> the cont known as Nigel Eaton says...
<snip>
> Bag, brick, river. YKIMS.
>

I was wondering when you'd show up on a thread that talks about cats. :)

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[Champ]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:44:50 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <1105444065.354863.153620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>,
>says...
>> FWIW, Cat IAMS are horrible. Can't see they they eat them ;-) [1]
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>> [1] Well, I saw the cat noshing on them like they were really tasty, so
>> I was curious [2]
>> [2] ok ? ;)
>
>Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
>taste cat food ... sod that.

You'd eat it if you were hungry enough.
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[Bear]

In article <tko7u0lbb2p6rkdvnhboafh8ridofj4qk2@4ax.com>, Ace says...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:19:39 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
> >puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
> >isn't good for them?
>
> Not sure about that; most brands claim to be a 'complete' food, so I
> guess it should be OK. Ours get both, but are much more enthusiastic
> about the wet stuff, presumably just because the crunchies are always
> there. But I'm happy to leave them for a couple of days with just
> plenty of the dry.
>
> Got a new kitten[1] last week and bought some special kitten food, wet
> and dry, both of which the others think is wonderful. She seems happy
> to eat just about anything :-}
>
> [1] A real cutie, but then aren't they all?

Awwwww ... now here's a question; if I showed a kitten the drop from the
balcony, would it then be smart enough to not leap off? I'd hate to
think of one going 5 stories down :(
--
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"Don't believe the hype"
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[Bear]

In article <34i5umF4b1513U1@individual.net>, AndrewR says...
> Bear wrote:
>
> > I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
> > puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
> > isn't good for them?
>
> Mick's cats only ever get dried food.
>
> Mind you, that may just be because he's tight.

heh. I did read somewhere that dried food isn't good for their liver or
kidneys, even if they've got plenty of water, but then that was a fair
while ago, so maybe the dried foods have come on in leaps and bounds
since?
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"Don't believe the hype"
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[Bear]

In article <bkq7u0d9havgk2c2md6hpq24cs36op3vqd@4ax.com>, Champ says...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:44:50 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <1105444065.354863.153620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>,
> >says...
> >> FWIW, Cat IAMS are horrible. Can't see they they eat them ;-) [1]
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> Paul.
> >>
> >> [1] Well, I saw the cat noshing on them like they were really tasty, so
> >> I was curious [2]
> >> [2] ok ? ;)
> >
> >Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
> >taste cat food ... sod that.
>
> You'd eat it if you were hungry enough.

Well yes, but that doesn't prove very much, does it? I mean, people have
eaten their shoes before now, but I'd not want to sit down to a dinner
of Dolcis Au Gratin.
--
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"Don't believe the hype"
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[Ace]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:08:47 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <tko7u0lbb2p6rkdvnhboafh8ridofj4qk2@4ax.com>, Ace says...

>> [1] A real cutie, but then aren't they all?
>
>Awwwww ... now here's a question; if I showed a kitten the drop from the
>balcony, would it then be smart enough to not leap off?

Possibly not. One of ours, when young (~6 months, at a guess), did
jump from the bedroom window, although with no ill effect. He's been
~75% blind since birth, so we reckon he just thought "Well, how far
down can it be?".

>I'd hate to think of one going 5 stories down :(

Actually, I suspect he'd pretty much reached terminal velocity in the
fifteen feet he jumped. All four paws splayed out like a flying fox
seemed to provide a fair amount of wind resistance for not much body
weight.

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[Ace]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:14:31 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <bkq7u0d9havgk2c2md6hpq24cs36op3vqd@4ax.com>, Champ says...

>> You'd eat it if you were hungry enough.
>
>Well yes, but that doesn't prove very much, does it? I mean, people have
>eaten their shoes before now, but I'd not want to sit down to a dinner
>of Dolcis Au Gratin.

Nice bit of sole, anyone?

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[Bear]

In article <a7r7u0p234jip43maue1eoham2k45fnrre@4ax.com>, Ace says...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:08:47 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <tko7u0lbb2p6rkdvnhboafh8ridofj4qk2@4ax.com>, Ace says...
>
> >> [1] A real cutie, but then aren't they all?
> >
> >Awwwww ... now here's a question; if I showed a kitten the drop from the
> >balcony, would it then be smart enough to not leap off?
>
> Possibly not. One of ours, when young (~6 months, at a guess), did
> jump from the bedroom window, although with no ill effect. He's been
> ~75% blind since birth, so we reckon he just thought "Well, how far
> down can it be?".

Yeah I figured that, as cats aren't too bright (brain the size of a
walnut?), that sooner or later curiosity might do the cat thing ...

> >I'd hate to think of one going 5 stories down :(
>
> Actually, I suspect he'd pretty much reached terminal velocity in the
> fifteen feet he jumped. All four paws splayed out like a flying fox
> seemed to provide a fair amount of wind resistance for not much body
> weight.

ISTR a cat surviving a huge fall from a block of flats a while back ...
sounds impossible, but something like 10 storeys?

<googles>

Like this:
http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf084/sf084b07.htm

32 storeys?? ****'s *sake*!
--
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"Don't believe the hype"
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[Bear]

In article <4ir7u01pmt2r3rvsqaahubguvkugkv3t9v@4ax.com>, Ace says...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:14:31 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <bkq7u0d9havgk2c2md6hpq24cs36op3vqd@4ax.com>, Champ says...
>
> >> You'd eat it if you were hungry enough.
> >
> >Well yes, but that doesn't prove very much, does it? I mean, people have
> >eaten their shoes before now, but I'd not want to sit down to a dinner
> >of Dolcis Au Gratin.
>
> Nice bit of sole, anyone?

Or tongue.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[AndrewR]

Bear wrote:

> Awwwww ... now here's a question; if I showed a kitten the drop from
> the balcony, would it then be smart enough to not leap off? I'd hate
> to think of one going 5 stories down :(

There was a thing on (IIRC) Straightdope a while ago about how far cats can
fall and survive.

The conclusion was that cats appear to parachute themselves out when falling
and thus have a non-fatal terminal velocity.

Of course it would probably land OK and then be knocked over, but them's the
breaks.

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[AndrewR]

Bear wrote:

> ISTR a cat surviving a huge fall from a block of flats a while back
> ... sounds impossible, but something like 10 storeys?

And here's the Straightdope link I mentioned in my other post ...

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_190.html

So that's anecdotal evidence in favour of a cat surviving an 800ft fall from
a Cessna then.

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The speccy Geordie twat.

[Bear]

In article <34i9r6F4bi2h0U1@individual.net>, AndrewR says...
> Bear wrote:
>
> > ISTR a cat surviving a huge fall from a block of flats a while back
> > ... sounds impossible, but something like 10 storeys?
>
> And here's the Straightdope link I mentioned in my other post ...
>
> http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_190.html
>
> So that's anecdotal evidence in favour of a cat surviving an 800ft fall from
> a Cessna then.

<reads>

Jesus, what arsehole would do that?
--
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"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Champ]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:14:31 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> >Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
>> >taste cat food ... sod that.
>>
>> You'd eat it if you were hungry enough.
>
>Well yes, but that doesn't prove very much, does it? I mean, people have
>eaten their shoes before now, but I'd not want to sit down to a dinner
>of Dolcis Au Gratin.

Bloody arriviste - no one with class would server gratin with dolcis -
with a high street shoe, plain and unsophisticated on the palate,
you'd be better off with, say, simple mash and gravy. Now, if you
were serving Manolo Blahniks, then you'd want a more complex
accompaniment.
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[Bear]

In article <36t7u0lr1r1kg7sursmk50ohmn1qj19dd4@4ax.com>, Champ says...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:14:31 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> >Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
> >> >taste cat food ... sod that.
> >>
> >> You'd eat it if you were hungry enough.
> >
> >Well yes, but that doesn't prove very much, does it? I mean, people have
> >eaten their shoes before now, but I'd not want to sit down to a dinner
> >of Dolcis Au Gratin.
>
> Bloody arriviste - no one with class would server gratin with dolcis -
> with a high street shoe, plain and unsophisticated on the palate,
> you'd be better off with, say, simple mash and gravy. Now, if you
> were serving Manolo Blahniks, then you'd want a more complex
> accompaniment.

Lectured on food by Champ. My life is over.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Ace]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:57:00 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:


>Lectured on food by Champ. My life is over.

He was at it on the skiing ng a couple of days ago too... Duno what
the world's coming to.

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[Adrienne M Bonwick]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:31:46 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:

>Got a new kitten[1] last week

jpg!

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[AndrewR]

Bear wrote:
> In article <34i9r6F4bi2h0U1@individual.net>, AndrewR says...

>> http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_190.html
>>
>> So that's anecdotal evidence in favour of a cat surviving an 800ft
>> fall from a Cessna then.
>
> <reads>
>
> Jesus, what arsehole would do that?

An American with a Cessna and a relaxed attitude to cat replacement would be
my guess.

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[Champ]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:10:50 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:57:00 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Lectured on food by Champ. My life is over.
>
>He was at it on the skiing ng a couple of days ago too... Duno what
>the world's coming to.

<Dissappointed> I was just hoping Bear would take the whole cuisine
de chaussure riff and run with it
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[Whinging Courier]

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Bear wrote:

> heh. I did read somewhere that dried food isn't good for their liver or
> kidneys, even if they've got plenty of water, but then that was a fair
> while ago, so maybe the dried foods have come on in leaps and bounds
> since?

Mrs. Courier has got two cats and feeds them almost exclusively on dried
food. When they do get a tin or a pouch of something slimey they go
****ing barmy and run around like they're on steroids.

--
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[Cab]

Bear bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
lines of:

> Awwwww ... now here's a question; if I showed a kitten the drop from
> the balcony, would it then be smart enough to not leap off? I'd hate
> to think of one going 5 stories down :(

My cat's got this bloody fixation that as soon as I open the window in
the bathroom upstairs, he has to jump onto the window ledge to survey
the world. He's not yet tried to jump though.
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[zymurgy@technologist.com]

> My thoughts exactly ... I *hate* the smell of cat food :(

heh. The whiskas in gravy looks quite nice, but after the IAMS
experience, i'm not going to give it a shot ...

> I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage,

I have one you can have, but I don't think I can put the poor old
bugger through that sort of mental anguish ;)

> but the thought of the cat food puts me off ... am I right in
thinking feeding them on dried food only
> isn't good for them?

Mine has both dried and wet, the IAMS is fearsome expensive but the
fecker won't eat anything else.

Curiously he won't eat cooked, fresh chicken or turkey, but he does
like meat.

Oh, and milk makes him hurl if that helps ;)

Cheers,

Paul.

[Bear]

In article <u2v7u0pdfr2alb18kc5c0e9vl96lgi6vmg@4ax.com>, Champ says...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:10:50 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:57:00 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Lectured on food by Champ. My life is over.
> >
> >He was at it on the skiing ng a couple of days ago too... Duno what
> >the world's coming to.

Oh Champ certainly knows something about good food ... he just doesn't
GAF about it :)

> <Dissappointed> I was just hoping Bear would take the whole cuisine
> de chaussure riff and run with it

Apologies ... I'm in a warm, floaty place ATM, and not inclined to do
very much of anything.
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Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[TMack]

"Bear" <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c4df0d5fb578dd2989a6b@News.individual.ne t...
> In article <34i4lbF4b9nnoU1@individual.net>, flash says...
> >
> > "Muck" <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote in message
> > news:41e3dc21$0$16575$cc9e4d1f@news-
> >
> > > > Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas
to
> > > > taste cat food ... sod that.
> > >
> > > Animal foods only tend to smell bad, not taste bad... apparently..
*cough*
> >
> > My cats get tesco's economy cat food at 15p a tin. It comes in one
flavour -
> > cat food flavour - and I find it deeply unpleasant just forking it out
of
> > the tin, I would not want to taste it.
>
> My thoughts exactly ... I *hate* the smell of cat food :(
>
> I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
> puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
> isn't good for them?

Both of mine have had 10 years on the dried stuff and they are both in
perfect health.

Tony

[Ace]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:16:27 +0000, Adrienne M Bonwick
<spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:31:46 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>Got a new kitten[1] last week
>
>jpg!

Err, 'ang on a minute...

'Ere we go. Not very good, smallish, and on a very slow server:

http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0061.JPG
http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0065.JPG
http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0066.JPG

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[steve auvache]

Ace wrote
>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:16:27 +0000, Adrienne M Bonwick
><spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:31:46 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Got a new kitten[1] last week
>>
>>jpg!
>
>Err, 'ang on a minute...
>
>'Ere we go. Not very good, smallish, and on a very slow server:
>
>http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0061.JPG
>http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0065.JPG
>http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0066.JPG

What happened to the ukrm moggies page then?



--
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[Bear]

In article <o608u0p263fn9c6idh1j2d074aicpkfkf5@4ax.com>, Ace says...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:16:27 +0000, Adrienne M Bonwick
> <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:31:46 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
> >
> >>Got a new kitten[1] last week
> >
> >jpg!
>
> Err, 'ang on a minute...
>
> 'Ere we go. Not very good, smallish, and on a very slow server:
>
> http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0061.JPG
> http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0065.JPG
> http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0066.JPG

Slow site or what ...

.... awwwwwww ... nice looking kitty though. What's that colouring
called? Brindle?

The Brindle London Squatting Cat [1]

[1] from a kid's book I've had since I was 4 or 5 [2]
[2] http://www.biblio.com/books/4211097.html ... ****ing hellbeans!
*How* much?!
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Champ]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:45:37 +0000, steve auvache
<dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:

>What happened to the ukrm moggies page then?

Given that Windy maintained it, I think you should be able to work
that out.
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[Bear]

In article <34idt2F4bv07oU1@individual.net>, TMack says...
>
> "Bear" <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c4df0d5fb578dd2989a6b@News.individual.ne t...

> > I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
> > puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
> > isn't good for them?
>
> Both of mine have had 10 years on the dried stuff and they are both in
> perfect health.

Ah, thanks for that.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[AndrewR]

Champ wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:45:37 +0000, steve auvache
> <dont_spam@thecow.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> What happened to the ukrm moggies page then?
>
> Given that Windy maintained it, I think you should be able to work
> that out.

Lazy bitch.

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[TMack]

"Ace" <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:a7r7u0p234jip43maue1eoham2k45fnrre@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:08:47 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <tko7u0lbb2p6rkdvnhboafh8ridofj4qk2@4ax.com>, Ace says...
>
> >> [1] A real cutie, but then aren't they all?
> >
> >Awwwww ... now here's a question; if I showed a kitten the drop from the
> >balcony, would it then be smart enough to not leap off?
>
> Possibly not. One of ours, when young (~6 months, at a guess), did
> jump from the bedroom window, although with no ill effect. He's been
> ~75% blind since birth, so we reckon he just thought "Well, how far
> down can it be?".
>
> >I'd hate to think of one going 5 stories down :(
>
> Actually, I suspect he'd pretty much reached terminal velocity in the
> fifteen feet he jumped. All four paws splayed out like a flying fox
> seemed to provide a fair amount of wind resistance for not much body
> weight.

Its the surface/volume ratio that is the most important factor for small to
medium-sized animals. The surface of a sphere is 4pi times r squared wheras
its volume is 4/3 pi times r cubed. That means that as animals get bigger
their volume (and therefor their mass) increases much more rapidly than
their surface area (surface area relates to wind resistance and therefor
affects terminal velocity). Drop a spider off a skyscraper and it will walk
away completely unharmed. A small mammal such as a mouse would stand a good
chance of survival with only minor injuries. A cat might survive but would
probably have serious injuries, usually broken leg(s) and jaw and head
injuries - the legs might hit first and absorb much of the impact for the
body but the head keeps going till it hits the ground. A human would
almosty invariably suffer severe and fatal injuries. An averaged size cat
reaches its terminal velocity of about 60 mph within 5 stories of freefall.
For comparison, an average person's terminal velocity is about 120 mph.
However, the graph tends to flatten as size and mass increases beyond human
as wind resistance becomes less important and the acceleration due to
gravity is the the predominant factor.

Tony

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Muck <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net>
saying something like:

>Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
>some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
>bad effects on me.

Woof?

--

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SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
saying something like:

>ISTR a cat surviving a huge fall from a block of flats a while back ...
>sounds impossible, but something like 10 storeys?

A flat cat of my acquaintance took a tumble from the windowsill it
habitually slept on - 4 floors up. The little bugger was jammy enough to
land in a bush and survived the experience generally ok apart from the
cack round its nether fur.

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

[Higgins@work]

Cab wrote:

> Bear bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
> lines of:
>
> > Awwwww ... now here's a question; if I showed a kitten the drop from
> > the balcony, would it then be smart enough to not leap off? I'd hate
> > to think of one going 5 stories down :(
>
> My cat's got this bloody fixation that as soon as I open the window in
> the bathroom upstairs, he has to jump onto the window ledge to survey
> the world. He's not yet tried to jump though.

Maybe try giving him a fright, that might help.

--
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[Muck]

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Muck <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net>
> saying something like:
>
>
>>Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
>>some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
>>bad effects on me.
>
>
> Woof?
>

No, straight.

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[Bear]

In article <rqv7u0pvun0gneah1msl7dovvpppd483k5@4ax.com>, Grimly
Curmudgeon says...
> It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> saying something like:
>
> >ISTR a cat surviving a huge fall from a block of flats a while back ...
> >sounds impossible, but something like 10 storeys?
>
> A flat cat of my acquaintance took a tumble from the windowsill it
> habitually slept on - 4 floors up. The little bugger was jammy enough to
> land in a bush and survived the experience generally ok apart from the
> cack round its nether fur.

Yes I think I'd do numbers twos too if I fell from 4 floors up.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Lozzo]

Champ says...
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:10:50 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:57:00 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Lectured on food by Champ. My life is over.
> >
> >He was at it on the skiing ng a couple of days ago too... Duno what
> >the world's coming to.
>
> <Dissappointed> I was just hoping Bear would take the whole cuisine
> de chaussure riff and run with it

Le Coq sportif au vin?

--
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ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[Lozzo]

Bear says...
> In article <MPG.1c4d2e61388d2f859898ca@news.individual.net>, Lozzo
> says...
> > At least it didn't make me violent this time.
>
> I'm amazed, given the stories about you on chocolate, that you managed
> to eat one without realising.

There's not a great deal of chocolate on a Bounty.

> In the event of an invasion, you and a large Bourneville are our only
> hope ...

Knowing my luck it'd melt before the attack started.

--
Lozzo
ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[Cab]

TMack bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
lines of:

> Both of mine have had 10 years on the dried stuff and they are both in
> perfect health.

Are their teeth tartar free?

--
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[Cab]

Higgins@work bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along
the lines of:

> Cab wrote:
>
> > Bear bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
> > lines of:
> >
> > > Awwwww ... now here's a question; if I showed a kitten the drop
> > > from the balcony, would it then be smart enough to not leap off?
> > > I'd hate to think of one going 5 stories down :(
> >
> > My cat's got this bloody fixation that as soon as I open the window
> > in the bathroom upstairs, he has to jump onto the window ledge to
> > survey the world. He's not yet tried to jump though.
>
> Maybe try giving him a fright, that might help.

<G> Sod. SWMBO wouldn't be too happy. (Yes, yes Paul, I know)

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email addy : ukrm_dot_cab_at_rosbif_dot_org

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Whinging Courier
<markonusenetTAKEITAWAY@yahoo.co.uk> saying something like:

>Mrs. Courier has got two cats and feeds them almost exclusively on dried
>food. When they do get a tin or a pouch of something slimey they go
>****ing barmy and run around like they're on steroids.

I'm sure Whiskas has something mildly addictive in it.

--

Dave

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SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

[Paul Corfield]

On 11 Jan 2005 17:30:35 GMT, "Cab" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>Higgins@work bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along
>the lines of:
>
>> Cab wrote:
>>
>> > Bear bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
>> > lines of:
>> >
>> > > Awwwww ... now here's a question; if I showed a kitten the drop
>> > > from the balcony, would it then be smart enough to not leap off?
>> > > I'd hate to think of one going 5 stories down :(
>> >
>> > My cat's got this bloody fixation that as soon as I open the window
>> > in the bathroom upstairs, he has to jump onto the window ledge to
>> > survey the world. He's not yet tried to jump though.

IME all cats have this fixation.

>> Maybe try giving him a fright, that might help.
>
><G> Sod. SWMBO wouldn't be too happy. (Yes, yes Paul, I know)

You know what?
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[Cab]

Paul Corfield wrote:

> >> Maybe try giving him a fright, that might help.
> >
> ><G> Sod. SWMBO wouldn't be too happy. (Yes, yes Paul, I know)
>
> You know what?

That you would have made a comment either on the NG or when you came
over next. But didn't.

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[Dr Ivan D. Reid]

On 11 Jan 2005 03:47:45 -0800,
zymurgy@technologist.com <zymurgy@technologist.com>
wrote in <1105444065.354863.153620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups. com>:
> FWIW, Cat IAMS are horrible. Can't see they they eat them ;-) [1]

> [1] Well, I saw the cat noshing on them like they were really tasty, so
> I was curious [2]
> [2] ok ? ;)

Was Sir also a slight bit pickled?

--
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WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

[Dr Ivan D. Reid]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:23:38 +0000, Nigel Eaton <nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>
wrote in <RMIk6v6qF+4BJwk4@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>:

> One of my moggies has IBS[1] and can only eat dried food.

> [1] Don't ask. Don't. ****ing. Ask.

Can't you feed it regular doses of Imodium? That's sometimes
prescribed for IBS in humans.

--
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Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD. "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO# 003, 005
WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

[Dr Ivan D. Reid]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:23:15 -0000, AndrewR <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote in <34icljF4biq0kU1@individual.net>:
> Bear wrote:
>> In article <34i9r6F4bi2h0U1@individual.net>, AndrewR says...

>>> http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_190.html

>>> So that's anecdotal evidence in favour of a cat surviving an 800ft
>>> fall from a Cessna then.

>> <reads>

>> Jesus, what arsehole would do that?

> An American with a Cessna and a relaxed attitude to cat replacement would be
> my guess.

...and a craving for chicken dinner, even if it were a bit furry...

--
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Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk Room 40-1-B12, CERN
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WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
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[Beelzebub]

"Bear" <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c4df33266ce95d989a6e@News.individual.net ...

> Ah right ... maybe the dried foods have got much better the last few
> years coz I remember cat owners telling me using 100% dried food was bad
> a while back.

My two mogs will only eat IAMS dried food and Nigel said, it's fine as long
as they can have lots of water.

[Beelzebub]

<zymurgy@technologist.com> wrote in message
news:1105461605.212587.172120@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > My thoughts exactly ... I *hate* the smell of cat food :(
>
> heh. The whiskas in gravy looks quite nice, but after the IAMS
> experience, i'm not going to give it a shot ...
>
> > I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage,
>
> I have one you can have, but I don't think I can put the poor old
> bugger through that sort of mental anguish ;)
>
> > but the thought of the cat food puts me off ... am I right in
> thinking feeding them on dried food only
> > isn't good for them?
>
> Mine has both dried and wet, the IAMS is fearsome expensive but the
> fecker won't eat anything else.
>
> Curiously he won't eat cooked, fresh chicken or turkey, but he does
> like meat.
>
> Oh, and milk makes him hurl if that helps ;)

Normal cow's milk isn't good for cats (contrary to public perception) - can
get special milk but it's rather expensive. Water's best for them.

[Nigel Eaton]

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Dr Ivan D. Reid
<Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk> typed
>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:23:38 +0000, Nigel Eaton <nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>
> wrote in <RMIk6v6qF+4BJwk4@rcav8r.demon.co.uk>:
>
>> One of my moggies has IBS[1] and can only eat dried food.
>
>> [1] Don't ask. Don't. ****ing. Ask.
>
> Can't you feed it regular doses of Imodium? That's sometimes
>prescribed for IBS in humans.

It's all gonna come out at some point, and frankly I'd rather it was in
relatively small instalments.

We now recognise the symptoms and are quite adept at rapid and accurate
cat-hurling.

I've had the poor little bastard for about twelve years, so he's getting
on a bit. I'd be much more judgmental if I didn't think a similar fate
may well await me...

--
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[Dr Ivan D. Reid]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:16:41 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net>
wrote in <a7r7u0p234jip43maue1eoham2k45fnrre@4ax.com>:

> Actually, I suspect he'd pretty much reached terminal velocity in the
> fifteen feet he jumped. All four paws splayed out like a flying fox
> seemed to provide a fair amount of wind resistance for not much body
> weight.

Flying squirrel/possum, shirley? A flying fox is a large fruit bat.

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KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

[mups]

Grimly Curmudgeon grimlycurmudgeon683@hotmail.com says...
>
> I'm sure Whiskas has something mildly addictive in it.
>

Yea, but it makes your fag papers soggy and its ****ing difficult to
light...

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[Dr Ivan D. Reid]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:40:55 +0000 (UTC),
Toby Augh-Nottoby <prince@denmark.org>
wrote in <cs0ohm$h6f$1@sparta.btinternet.com>:

> "Bear" <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c4de8b12e2c13a9989a61@News.individual.ne t...

>> Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
>> taste cat food ... sod that.

> Not so bad. It used to be a doctor's job, when testing for diabetes, to
> taste the patient's piss.

Ah, now, there's a story about that. A doctor lecturing his class
about diabetes told them how a diabetic's urine was sweet because of the
extra sugar. To illustrate he produced a beaker of said urine and said,
"Like this," wet a finger in the beaker and then sucked his finger.
"Now, you try!" One by one, with trepidation, the students filed past,
dipping a finger in the urine and then tasting the finger. When they had
all returned to their seats the lecturer said, "That was actually a lesson
on observation. In reality I put _this_ finger in the beaker, but instead
I put _this_ finger in my mouth!"

--
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Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD. "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO# 003, 005
WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

[Adrienne M Bonwick]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:42:20 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:16:27 +0000, Adrienne M Bonwick
><spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:31:46 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Got a new kitten[1] last week
>>
>>jpg!
>
>Err, 'ang on a minute...
>
>'Ere we go. Not very good, smallish, and on a very slow server:
>
>http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0061.JPG
>http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0065.JPG
>http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0066.JPG

aw bless, he's the same colour as cains. (our elder fat cat). pics of
her and our newish arrival are here http://www.bonwick.me.uk/joey2/

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[Dr Ivan D. Reid]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:12:52 -0000, Steph <stephlNO@SPAMchurchstone.com>
wrote in <MPG.1c4d4680b2888aaf9896a5@news.freeserve.co.uk>:
> In article <MPG.1c4d2e61388d2f859898ca@news.individual.net>,
> lozzo@speedyspic.co.uk says...
>> At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
>> realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.

>> Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years.
>> 2 Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
>> double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
>> effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it
>> didn't make me violent this time.

>> Me and choccie bars just don't get on.

> For future reference Syndol:
> http://www.mypharmacy.co.uk/medicines/medicines/s/syndol/syndol.htm

> works for me. AAMOF 2 of them has me spaced out for the afternoon as I
> found out on Saturday (fell over at work and cracked the side of my
> face/eye against some wooden Koi vats).

> I don't know why these tablets work so much better than other stuff
> containing caffiene etc, but I think it's the doxylamine which helps.

MTAAW. I mainly use them when my back muscles are going into
spasm to "protect" me from perceived injuries that are really nerves
pinching in my neck. I first got them from a pharmacist friend in
Adelaide where the local brew is bottle-fermented and the leftover of the
yeast gives me terrible headaches. Woke up one Saturday morning after
someone had poured me some Cooper's too quickly the night before and fed
me said yeast. I looked at the box -- dosage two tablets -- so I took two
tablets, went back to bed, and woke up again Sunday night!

> God knows what I sold to the customers on Saturday as I have a mental
> block, I can't remember driving home either though whether that was the
> syndol or the bump to the head I'm not sure.

That was probably a wee bit unwise.

--
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Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@brunel.ac.uk Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD. "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO# 003, 005
WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

[Linger]

"Muck" <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote in message
news:41e32a10$0$19166$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> Lozzo wrote:
>> At around 1pm I ate one half of a plain chocolate Bounty before I
>> realised what I was doing. I threw the other half away.
>>
>> Within 20 minutes I was suffering the worst headache I've had in years. 2
>> Paracetamol later and I still had it at 4pm. I drove home and took a
>> double dose of Paracetamol with Ibuprofen at around 6-30pm and still no
>> effect. The headache is just starting to wear off now. At least it didn't
>> make me violent this time.
>>
>> Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
>>
>
> Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
> some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
> bad effects on me.

Don't they remove something from chocolate to make dog chocolates?
I heard that normal chocolate was very bad for dogs.

--
Linger

[Whinging Courier]

In uk.rec.motorcycles, Muck wrote:

> >>I'll have a look round when I go there.
> >
> >
> > Do they just let you pilfer it then or do you have an arrangement?
> >
>
> I just buy them.

Cool. Save me a few when you come up for the CBR[1]

[1] Chocolate Bone Run ;)

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[AndrewR]

Linger wrote:

> Don't they remove something from chocolate to make dog chocolates?
> I heard that normal chocolate was very bad for dogs.

Chocolate is no more or less poisonous to dogs than it is to humans, it's
just that humans won't eat lethal doses of chocolate whereas a dog will if
it can get its paws on them.

The other thing is that most humans have a tolerance for caffine that most
dogs don't build up.

[1] Somewhere between 0.5 and 1.5 stone of chocolate for a human, less for
a dog because of their smaller size.

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[Muck]

Whinging Courier wrote:
> In uk.rec.motorcycles, Muck wrote:
>
>
>>>>I'll have a look round when I go there.
>>>
>>>
>>>Do they just let you pilfer it then or do you have an arrangement?
>>>
>>
>>I just buy them.
>
>
> Cool. Save me a few when you come up for the CBR[1]
>

I'll be fitting a new chain and sprockets on the FZR tomorrow, and
getting some bones too if the weather is fine and dry.

I've still got to be careful with the dosh, and have to do a fair bit of
running around taking stuff to the dump and over to my new place bit by
bit. This will go on until I move at the end of this month / next month.

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[Christofire]

Dr Ivan D. Reid wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:23:15 -0000, AndrewR
> <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
> <34icljF4biq0kU1@individual.net>:
> > Bear wrote:
> >> In article <34i9r6F4bi2h0U1@individual.net>, AndrewR says...
>
> >>> http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_190.html
>
> >>> So that's anecdotal evidence in favour of a cat surviving an 800ft
> >>> fall from a Cessna then.
>
> >> <reads>
>
> >> Jesus, what arsehole would do that?
>
> > An American with a Cessna and a relaxed attitude to cat replacement
> > would be my guess.
>
> ...and a craving for chicken dinner, even if it were a bit furry...

Did anyone else get a Roadrunner/Wile E Coyote mental image, of the cat
constantly trying to hide on top of the chicken & vice versa?

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[platypus]

Bear wrote:
>
> I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
> puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
> isn't good for them?

I've had (well, part-owned) several cats when I lived at home. They were
fed mostly on leftovers, scraps etc, anything they could catch, and the odd
soft-shelled egg from the henhouse. If you set down a raw egg for a cat,
it'll lap the whole thing up and take the pattern off the plate while it's
at it. When I first left home and was living in a bedsit in Bristol, force
of habit saw several dinner plates set on the floor to be cleaned, and I
kept seeing the old thing skulking around out of the corner of my eye.

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no need to ask

[Christofire]

Lozzo wrote:

> Champ says...
> > On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:10:50 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:57:00 -0000, Bear
> > > <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Lectured on food by Champ. My life is over.
> > >
> > > He was at it on the skiing ng a couple of days ago too... Duno
> > > what the world's coming to.
> >
> > <Dissappointed> I was just hoping Bear would take the whole cuisine
> > de chaussure riff and run with it
>
> Le Coq sportif au vin?

A variation on Beef Wellington - as normal but with Fila pastry.

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BOMB#15 "But..he looks so *innocent*" HYPO#2
Full throttle for 55 minutes - a hell of a buzz.

[platypus]

AndrewR wrote:
> Bear wrote:
>> In article <34i9r6F4bi2h0U1@individual.net>, AndrewR says...
>
>>> http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_190.html
>>>
>>> So that's anecdotal evidence in favour of a cat surviving an 800ft
>>> fall from a Cessna then.
>>
>> <reads>
>>
>> Jesus, what arsehole would do that?
>
> An American with a Cessna and a relaxed attitude to cat replacement
> would be my guess.

Yeah, but /one/ cat? What sort of scientific study is that? Herd a couple
of thousand out the back of a Hercules, and you've got a basis for
statistical credibility.

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no need to ask

[Christofire]

AndrewR wrote:

> Chocolate is no more or less poisonous to dogs than it is to humans,
> it's just that humans won't eat lethal doses of chocolate whereas a
> dog will if it can get its paws on them.

Do you know if it's a lingering death for the human? Sounds like a
nice way to bow out on the face of it.

--
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BOMB#15 "But..he looks so *innocent*" HYPO#2
Full throttle for 55 minutes - a hell of a buzz.

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "platypus"
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> saying something like:

>> I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
>> puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
>> isn't good for them?
>
>I've had (well, part-owned) several cats when I lived at home. They were
>fed mostly on leftovers, scraps etc, anything they could catch, and the odd
>soft-shelled egg from the henhouse. If you set down a raw egg for a cat,
>it'll lap the whole thing up and take the pattern off the plate while it's
>at it.

Every cat I've had has gone mental for pork of any description. I'm wary
of giving them too much just in case it'll kill them for some weird cat
metabolism reason.

After all, given that they're so keen on it, there must be some reason
why you don't find tins of Kattikins Pig.

--

Dave

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[Champ]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:33:08 GMT, "platypus"
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>AndrewR wrote:
>> Bear wrote:
>>> In article <34i9r6F4bi2h0U1@individual.net>, AndrewR says...
>>
>>>> http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_190.html
>>>>
>>>> So that's anecdotal evidence in favour of a cat surviving an 800ft
>>>> fall from a Cessna then.
>>>
>>> <reads>
>>>
>>> Jesus, what arsehole would do that?
>>
>> An American with a Cessna and a relaxed attitude to cat replacement
>> would be my guess.
>
>Yeah, but /one/ cat? What sort of scientific study is that? Herd a couple
>of thousand out the back of a Hercules, and you've got a basis for
>statistical credibility.

Herd cats? You see the problem with your plan?
--
Champ

[platypus]

Champ wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:33:08 GMT, "platypus"
> <monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> AndrewR wrote:
>>> Bear wrote:
>>>> In article <34i9r6F4bi2h0U1@individual.net>, AndrewR says...
>>>
>>>>> http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_190.html
>>>>>
>>>>> So that's anecdotal evidence in favour of a cat surviving an 800ft
>>>>> fall from a Cessna then.
>>>>
>>>> <reads>
>>>>
>>>> Jesus, what arsehole would do that?
>>>
>>> An American with a Cessna and a relaxed attitude to cat replacement
>>> would be my guess.
>>
>> Yeah, but /one/ cat? What sort of scientific study is that? Herd a
>> couple of thousand out the back of a Hercules, and you've got a
>> basis for statistical credibility.
>
> Herd cats? You see the problem with your plan?

Heh. I wondered who'd spot that.

Anyway, no problemo - I'd just wave my smoke-bottling spoon at them...

--
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no need to ask

[Ace]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 21:17:29 +0000, Adrienne M Bonwick
<spam@bonwick.me.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:42:20 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:16:27 +0000, Adrienne M Bonwick
>><spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:31:46 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Got a new kitten[1] last week
>>>
>>>jpg!
>>
>>Err, 'ang on a minute...
>>
>>'Ere we go. Not very good, smallish, and on a very slow server:
>>
>>http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0061.JPG
>>http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0065.JPG
>>http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0066.JPG
>
>aw bless, he's

She, actually.

>the same colour as cains. (our elder fat cat). pics of
>her and our newish arrival are here http://www.bonwick.me.uk/joey2/

Similar colour, yes. Used to have one very much like Cains (called her
Nutmeg), but Minkey's actually got a lot more black than that. Your
new kitten looks a cutie too.

--
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GSX-R1000K3
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[Ace]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:55:29 -0000, Bear <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In article <o608u0p263fn9c6idh1j2d074aicpkfkf5@4ax.com>, Ace says...
>> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:16:27 +0000, Adrienne M Bonwick
>> <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:31:46 +0100, Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Got a new kitten[1] last week
>> >
>> >jpg!
>>
>> Err, 'ang on a minute...
>>
>> 'Ere we go. Not very good, smallish, and on a very slow server:
>>
>> http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0061.JPG
>> http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0065.JPG
>> http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0066.JPG
>
>Slow site or what ...

Yeah, as I said. It's free though, and will do until I get round to
finding something better.

>... awwwwwww ... nice looking kitty though. What's that colouring
>called? Brindle?

Dunno. I just think of it as dark, non-tabby tortoiseshell.

--
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GSX-R1000K3
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[Ace]

On 11 Jan 2005 22:34:42 GMT, "Christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote:

>AndrewR wrote:
>
>> Chocolate is no more or less poisonous to dogs than it is to humans,
>> it's just that humans won't eat lethal doses of chocolate whereas a
>> dog will if it can get its paws on them.
>
>Do you know if it's a lingering death for the human? Sounds like a
>nice way to bow out on the face of it.

IANAD but I'm guessing that it would lead to massive kidney failure or
similar, so not a nice way to go at all.

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GSX-R1000K3
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[zymurgy@technologist.com]

Dr Ivan wrote:
> <zymurgy@technologist.com> wrote
> > FWIW, Cat IAMS are horrible. Can't see they they eat them ;-) [1]
>
> > [1] Well, I saw the cat noshing on them like they were really
> > tasty, so I was curious [2]
> > [2] ok ? ;)
>
> Was Sir also a slight bit pickled?
Surprisingly, no !!

Cheers,

Paul.

[Bear]

In article <5jq9u0db8pec28ap52k0qq67f2c2uii31p@4ax.com>, Ace says...
> On 11 Jan 2005 22:34:42 GMT, "Christofire" <chris@ukrm.org> wrote:
>
> >AndrewR wrote:
> >
> >> Chocolate is no more or less poisonous to dogs than it is to humans,
> >> it's just that humans won't eat lethal doses of chocolate whereas a
> >> dog will if it can get its paws on them.
> >
> >Do you know if it's a lingering death for the human? Sounds like a
> >nice way to bow out on the face of it.
>
> IANAD but I'm guessing that it would lead to massive kidney failure or
> similar, so not a nice way to go at all.

Plus who wants to eat *that* much of anything in one go.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
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[genuine_froggie]

flash <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Muck" <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote in message
> news:41e3dc21$0$16575$cc9e4d1f@news-

>> > Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas to
>> > taste cat food ... sod that.

>> Animal foods only tend to smell bad, not taste bad... apparently..
>> *cough*

> My cats get tesco's economy cat food at 15p a tin. It comes in one
> flavour - cat food flavour - and I find it deeply unpleasant just forking
> it out of the tin, I would not want to taste it.

Cheapskate. Why does your cat get cheapo economy food ? Do you eat
economy, too ?

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[flash]

"genuine_froggie" <genuine_froggie@zeouane.org> wrote in message
news:dm0gb2-p4o2.ln1@zeouane.org...
> flash <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > "Muck" <muck@_TEETH_tallbloke.net> wrote in message
> > news:41e3dc21$0$16575$cc9e4d1f@news-
>
> >> > Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas
to
> >> > taste cat food ... sod that.
>
> >> Animal foods only tend to smell bad, not taste bad... apparently..
> >> *cough*
>
> > My cats get tesco's economy cat food at 15p a tin. It comes in one
> > flavour - cat food flavour - and I find it deeply unpleasant just
forking
> > it out of the tin, I would not want to taste it.
>
> Cheapskate. Why does your cat get cheapo economy food ? Do you eat
> economy, too ?
>
The nutrional information on the tin is just about identical to the more
expensive stuff. Plus I hate my cats and wish they were dead.

[Simon Atkinson]

Bear wrote:

> Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas
> to taste cat food ... sod that.

I was amazed to find, when I worked for Pura (veggie oils folk) that
the board of directors and senior managers used to taste all the oil
produced.

A sample of each batch of oil, vegetable lard and margarine was saved
and tasted by them all... From a pint glass each. They'd hold it up to
the light, swill it round like a fine brandy and swig a big mouthful...

I think I'd prefer the catfood.

[Dan White]

"AndrewR" <andrew@rockface.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:34j029F4ann35U1@individual.net...
> Linger wrote:
<snip>
>
> Chocolate is no more or less poisonous to dogs than it is to humans, it's
> just that humans won't eat lethal doses of chocolate whereas a dog will if
> it can get its paws on them.


Not true. The following lecture is a summary of the polite rant the
veterinary nurse wife has to deliver to terminally ****ing stupid[1] dog
owners on an annoying regular basis:


Chocolate contains Theobromine, which is in the same family (Xanthines) as
caffine. Humans can break down Xanthines far more efficiently than dogs can,
so the toxic symptoms very rarely present themselves.

The half life of Xanthines in a human is a matter of an hour or two (think
of the "sugar rush" effects), whereas it is 17.5 hours for a dog, with some
nasty symptoms[2].

Doggy chocs have the theobromine component removed, so they are ok,
especially if you like your dog to be a fat cunt.


[1] "Well, he liked it, so I gave him the whole 400g bar."
<later>
"What do you mean, "£250 treatment bill?"

[2] Observational evidence taken from our whippet, which stuffed a box of
Roses that it nicked from inside two zipped up bags...

15 minutes after discovering dog on bed with a destroyed box of chocolates
and that, "what?" look on his face - Dog is dragged the 10 yards downstairs
to the vet surgery, where some back of a fag packet calculations conclude
he's had about 40% of the toxic dose. However, as they were roses and not
solid chocolate, it could potentially be even less than this. Vet advises
close observation for next 12 hours.

30 minutes - Dog drinks *entire* water bowl in two minutes flat.

45 minutes - Dog enters, "Turbo Nutter Bastard Mode". If you have ever owned
a whippet or a greyhound, try to imagine what they are like when they
haven't been walked for, say, a week. Then give it a can of Red Bull. This
in no way adequately describes the whirling dervish of destruction spinning
around the flat. Dog physically can *not* keep still. At one point he chases
his own tale until he becomes so dizzy that he falls over. At this point, he
begins "rowing" along the carpet using just his left legs and teeth...

1 hr 15 - I have moved everything of possible value either on top of the
wardrobe or into the bedroom, and shut the door.

1 hr 30 - I take dog out on the Flexi-lead to try and burn off some energy.
After dog manages to do an impression of an Imperial AT-AT with grappling
cable around its legs, I untie him and carry him back indoors.

5 hrs - Dog has most *astounding* attack of the ****s, complete with lovely
gurgling and burbling noises. Am forced to hose down patio, as there is
physically nothing to pick up...

6 hrs - Dog begins retching - After 10 minutes in the garden, he gives up,
walks back into the kitchen and proceeds to piss all over the floor.
Bastard.

8 hrs - Dog goes out for another attack of the ****s. At this point it
becomes clear that he was particularly fond of the hazel in caramel, and
Toffee Creme, as I find the wrappers protruding from the mess...

14 hrs - Dog finally goes to sleep, and wakes up 12 hours later with (I
suspect) the doggie equivalent of an amphetimine comedown.


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[Dan White]

"Bear" <bastardDOTbear@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c4df0d5fb578dd2989a6b@News.individual.ne t...
>
> I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
> puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
> isn't good for them?

Nope, it's absolutely fine, as long as they always have lots of fresh water
available.


--
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[Lozzo]

Bear says...

> Plus who wants to eat *that* much of anything in one go.

I ate pretty much the same thing[1][3] every night for 2 years and still
wasn't bored with it.

[1] Number 39[2] in the local chinky menu.
[2] Sliced beef with spring onions and ginger with a protion of special
fried rice
[3] Elly had never seen so many emptied and washed chinky cartons in one
kitchen cupboard before.

--
Lozzo
ZX-9R
In cunnis confidimus

[Christopher Des Clayes]

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:31:00 +0000, "Simon Atkinson" <me9@privacy.net>
wrote:

>Bear wrote:
>
>> Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas
>> to taste cat food ... sod that.
>
>I was amazed to find, when I worked for Pura (veggie oils folk) that
>the board of directors and senior managers used to taste all the oil
>produced.
>
>A sample of each batch of oil, vegetable lard and margarine was saved
>and tasted by them all... From a pint glass each. They'd hold it up to
>the light, swill it round like a fine brandy and swig a big mouthful...
>
>I think I'd prefer the catfood.

I bet that kept the buggers regular!


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[Owen]

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 22:21:45 GMT, "platypus"
<monotreme@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>Bear wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't mind a moggy at some stage, but the thought of the cat food
>> puts me off ... am I right in thinking feeding them on dried food only
>> isn't good for them?
>
>I've had (well, part-owned) several cats when I lived at home. They were
>fed mostly on leftovers, scraps etc, anything they could catch, and the odd
>soft-shelled egg from the henhouse. If you set down a raw egg for a cat,
>it'll lap the whole thing up and take the pattern off the plate while it's
>at it. When I first left home and was living in a bedsit in Bristol, force
>of habit saw several dinner plates set on the floor to be cleaned, and I
>kept seeing the old thing skulking around out of the corner of my eye.

Sentimental old git...
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Numbers ... | o |
Stuff ... | ooo |
Life ... -----

[Ben Blaney]

Lozzo wrote:

> Bear says...
>
>> Plus who wants to eat *that* much of anything in one go.
>
>I ate pretty much the same thing[1][3] every night for 2 years and still
>wasn't bored with it.

I'd never get bored of a tomato omelette.

--
Ben Blaney

[Simon Atkinson]

Christopher Des Clayes wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 17:31:00 +0000, "Simon Atkinson" <me9@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Bear wrote:
> >
> >> Apparently, there are people whose job it is at places like Whiskas
> >> to taste cat food ... sod that.
> >
> > I was amazed to find, when I worked for Pura (veggie oils folk) that
> > the board of directors and senior managers used to taste all the oil
> > produced.
> >
> > A sample of each batch of oil, vegetable lard and margarine was
> > saved and tasted by them all... From a pint glass each. They'd
> > hold it up to the light, swill it round like a fine brandy and swig
> > a big mouthful...
> >
> > I think I'd prefer the catfood.
>
> I bet that kept the buggers regular!

It would have made sure I rang in sick on board meeting day.

[Simian]

Muck wrote:
> Lozzo wrote:
>>
>> Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
>
> Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
> some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
> bad effects on me.

That's because they've not got any chocolate in them...


--
ZX7RR.

[Muck]

Simian wrote:
> Muck wrote:
>
>>Lozzo wrote:
>>
>>>Me and choccie bars just don't get on.
>>
>>Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
>>some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
>>bad effects on me.
>
>
> That's because they've not got any chocolate in them...
>
>

That'll be why then.

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[Phil Launchbury]

In article <34gmotF4ak4ilU1@individual.net>, Loz H wrote:

> Phenylethylamine or Tyramine are the amines said to cause headaches from
> chocolate. Apparently they cause dilation of the blood vessels in the brain,
> which then brings on the headaches.

Sounds like the same mechanism that causes my migraines..

<Waves sumatriptan[1]>

Phil.

[1] Blocks the mechanism that dilates the blood vessels I think - Ace?

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'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[genuine_froggie]

Phil Launchbury <phill@launchbury.org.uk> wrote:

> <Waves sumatriptan[1]>
>
> Phil.
>
> [1] Blocks the mechanism that dilates the blood vessels I think - Ace?

No, no. Ace just blocks the mechanism that allows the pain in your
backside to subside.

--
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UKRM's Man in France
BMW K100-LT
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[Phil Launchbury]

In article <MPG.1c4dfc8dbac30ea9989a76@News.individual.net>, Bear wrote:
>
> heh. I did read somewhere that dried food isn't good for their liver or
> kidneys, even if they've got plenty of water, but then that was a fair
> while ago, so maybe the dried foods have come on in leaps and bounds
> since?

Yes.

The main problem was high taurine levels - with male cats (especially
elderly male cats) it would tend to lead to the formation of crystals
in the bladder which would mean the urinary tract would get blocked.
Which is usually fairly fatal in an unpleasant sort of way.

Modern cat bisquits don't have the problem - we feed our 3 (all 14+ in
age) on a mixture of IAMs senior dry food and Whiskas senior pouches.

Phil

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'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <n468u05p8h6tmtkurudh8741tt1ad05th4@4ax.com>, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
>
> I'm sure Whiskas has something mildly addictive in it.

It's called meat..

(And no - the "whiskas has addictive substances" bit is an urban myth)

Phil

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'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <MPG.1c4e02fdd2191709989a7e@News.individual.net>, Bear wrote:
> In article <34i9r6F4bi2h0U1@individual.net>, AndrewR says...
>>
>> So that's anecdotal evidence in favour of a cat surviving an 800ft fall from
>> a Cessna then.
>
><reads>
>
> Jesus, what arsehole would do that?

Sounds like Des' "Scottie in bike tank-bag idea"..

Phil

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'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <xn0dx4v1uj6khw001@fra-linux1.fr.stratus.com>, Cab wrote:
> Bear bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
> lines of:
>
> My cat's got this bloody fixation that as soon as I open the window in
> the bathroom upstairs, he has to jump onto the window ledge to survey
> the world. He's not yet tried to jump though.

Our tom cat used to sleep on the apex of the neighbours garage roof.
Given his general lack of brains I'm amazed that he never fell off. The
roof was 2/3 of the height of the house and had a sharply pitched roof.
Mind you - he used to catch birds up there (I saw him catch one that
was trying to dive-bomb him - the first and only time he ever ate a
house-martin..)

Phil

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Phil Launchbury, IT PHB
Triumph Tiger 955i
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <MPG.1c4e155f54ce10a4989a97@News.individual.net>, Bear wrote:
> In article <o608u0p263fn9c6idh1j2d074aicpkfkf5@4ax.com>, Ace says...
>>
>> http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0061.JPG
>> http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0065.JPG
>> http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/minkey/IMG_0066.JPG
>
> Slow site or what ...
>
> ... awwwwwww ... nice looking kitty though. What's that colouring
> called? Brindle?

Tri-colour Tortoiseshell. As opposed to Calico (which is a tortie with
large patches of white)

Phil.

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Triumph Tiger 955i
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <34is9rF49i282U1@individual.net>, Beelzebub wrote:
>
> Normal cow's milk isn't good for cats (contrary to public perception) - can

Depends on the cat.. all three of ours drink it with no problems at
all. In fact Bubba (aka The Blob) is addicted to the stuff. But then
she started life as a farm cat and the only food they were provided was
a big tub of milk evey morning. If they wanted meat they had to catch
it themselves.

> get special milk but it's rather expensive. Water's best for them.

Whiskas cat milk. Bubba would crawl over broken glass (or even fight
off a determined Staffie cross) for that stuff. But it has lots and
lots of calories in it so she is strictly rationed[1].

Phil.

[1] There is a reason for the nickname..

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Triumph Tiger 955i
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <xn0dx4n1gpqe3000@fra-linux1.fr.stratus.com>, Cab wrote:
> TMack bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the
> lines of:
>
>> Both of mine have had 10 years on the dried stuff and they are both in
>> perfect health.
>
> Are their teeth tartar free?
>

The teeth on ours got much much cleaner when we switched them to dry
food..

Phil

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Phil Launchbury, IT PHB
Triumph Tiger 955i
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <34j029F4ann35U1@individual.net>, AndrewR wrote:
> Linger wrote:
>
>> Don't they remove something from chocolate to make dog chocolates?
>> I heard that normal chocolate was very bad for dogs.
>
> Chocolate is no more or less poisonous to dogs than it is to humans, it's

Erm - it is. They can't metabolise one of the active ingredients and we
can..

> The other thing is that most humans have a tolerance for caffine that most
> dogs don't build up.

No caffeine in chocolate - but plenty of caffiene-related substances.

Phil

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Triumph Tiger 955i
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <34hes4F4b2gloU2@individual.net>, Eiron wrote:
> Muck wrote:
>
>
>> Same here, and I still find myself eating it from time to time too. For
>> some reason, those little bone shaped chocolates for dogs don't have any
>> bad effects on me.
>
> Dog choccies are not chocolate as chocolate has bad effects on canine
> health. Draw your own conclusions....

It's the theobromine[1] in the chocolate that does them in (cats too) -
they can't metabolise it like we can.

Which is why doggie-chocolate doesn't taste like real chocolate or give
the stimulant effect of chocolate.

Tea and coffee also contain theobromines.

Phil

[1] A distant relative of caffeine I think


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Phil Launchbury, IT PHB
Triumph Tiger 955i
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Bear]

In article <slrncuf6ck.93t.phill@tabby.launchbury.org.uk>, Phil
Launchbury says...
> In article <MPG.1c4dfc8dbac30ea9989a76@News.individual.net>, Bear wrote:
> >
> > heh. I did read somewhere that dried food isn't good for their liver or
> > kidneys, even if they've got plenty of water, but then that was a fair
> > while ago, so maybe the dried foods have come on in leaps and bounds
> > since?
>
> Yes.
>
> The main problem was high taurine levels - with male cats (especially
> elderly male cats) it would tend to lead to the formation of crystals
> in the bladder which would mean the urinary tract would get blocked.
> Which is usually fairly fatal in an unpleasant sort of way.

Doesn't sound very nice, no.

> Modern cat bisquits don't have the problem - we feed our 3 (all 14+ in
> age) on a mixture of IAMs senior dry food and Whiskas senior pouches.

Cool, thanks Phil.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Ace]

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:00:01 +0000, Phil Launchbury
<phill@launchbury.org.uk> wrote:


>Sounds like the same mechanism that causes my migraines..
>
><Waves sumatriptan[1]>
>
>Phil.
>
>[1] Blocks the mechanism that dilates the blood vessels I think - Ace?

****ed if I can remember - I did some incidental work on it which won
me a commemorative clock/paperweight or some such crap, but I hadn't,
and still haven't, the foggiest idea of its mechanism of action.

--
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GSX-R1000K3
BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember genuine_froggie
<genuine_froggie@zeouane.org> saying something like:

>Phil Launchbury <phill@launchbury.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> <Waves sumatriptan[1]>
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> [1] Blocks the mechanism that dilates the blood vessels I think - Ace?
>
>No, no. Ace just blocks the mechanism that allows the pain in your
>backside to subside.

**** me; that was funny.

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

[Ace]

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:56:03 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimlycurmudgeon683@hotmail.com> wrote:

>It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember genuine_froggie
><genuine_froggie@zeouane.org> saying something like:
>
>>Phil Launchbury <phill@launchbury.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> <Waves sumatriptan[1]>
>>>
>>> Phil.
>>>
>>> [1] Blocks the mechanism that dilates the blood vessels I think - Ace?
>>
>>No, no. Ace just blocks the mechanism that allows the pain in your
>>backside to subside.
>
>**** me; that was funny.

And I's so pleased you repeated it to share the mirth with the rest of
us.

Actually, I can't for the life of me work out exactly how it's
supposed to be an insult, although I realise it must be. Pathetic,
really.

--
Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom)
GSX-R1000K3
BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <f4dfu0h28j3d82tv6b6i8cjk09anobsrl5@4ax.com>, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember genuine_froggie
><genuine_froggie@zeouane.org> saying something like:
>
>>> [1] Blocks the mechanism that dilates the blood vessels I think - Ace?
>>
>>No, no. Ace just blocks the mechanism that allows the pain in your
>>backside to subside.
>
> **** me; that was funny.

You must have a very low humour threshold..

Phil

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Triumph Tiger 955i
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Bear]

In article <slrncufrut.akl.phill@tabby.launchbury.org.uk>, Phil
Launchbury says...
> In article <f4dfu0h28j3d82tv6b6i8cjk09anobsrl5@4ax.com>, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> > It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> > drugs began to take hold. I remember genuine_froggie
> ><genuine_froggie@zeouane.org> saying something like:
> >
> >>> [1] Blocks the mechanism that dilates the blood vessels I think - Ace?
> >>
> >>No, no. Ace just blocks the mechanism that allows the pain in your
> >>backside to subside.
> >
> > **** me; that was funny.
>
> You must have a very low humour threshold..

I read it as sarcasm.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> saying
something like:

<snipped out of deference to delicate sensibilities>

>>**** me; that was funny.
>
>And I's so pleased you repeated it to share the mirth with the rest of
>us.

It's unusual, that's all.

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Phil Launchbury
<phill@launchbury.org.uk> saying something like:

>>>> [1] Blocks the mechanism that dilates the blood vessels I think - Ace?
>>>
>>>No, no. Ace just blocks the mechanism that allows the pain in your
>>>backside to subside.
>>
>> **** me; that was funny.
>
>You must have a very low humour threshold..

Look, it's my soh, and I'm keeping it, ok? So **** the lot o'yis.

--

Dave

GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10

[Nidge]

Phil Launchbury

> >> So that's anecdotal evidence in favour of a cat surviving an 800ft fall
from
> >> a Cessna then.
> >
> ><reads>
> >
> > Jesus, what arsehole would do that?

A curious empiricist one?

There has to be a size / volume / weight / mass / drag point beyond (or
below) which a small enough animal should be able to fall off anything and
get away with it because drag slows it so much its terminal velocity isn't,
err, terminal. IYSWIM.

Simple illustration, think back to the time you used to lob spiders out of
the window trying to drop 'em on the girl next door. They mostly missed
because they fell too slowly, unlike more solid/massive things like, say,
crisp bags full of water.

Maybe Lemmings *expect* to get away with it?

--
Nidge
ZX6R J2 Stunning in zit yellow. KX 125 MX 'I'm snot green -fly ME'. A few
bits of CB500S in Norwegian Parrot blue. BOTAFOT#63 BOMB#5

'Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand'.
Homer (Simpson).

[sweller]

Phil Launchbury wrote:

> In fact Bubba

What are the other cats' names?

--
Simon

http://www.sweller.co.uk/sob/

[Champ]

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:17:30 +0000, "sweller" <ng@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Phil Launchbury wrote:
>
>> In fact Bubba
>
>What are the other cats' names?

Cundalini?
Johnny?
Mudguts?
--
Champ

[Bear]

In article <6j7ru0lto6fq96uf62a9i4678dpj0m981p@4ax.com>, Champ says...
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 21:17:30 +0000, "sweller" <ng@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >Phil Launchbury wrote:
> >
> >> In fact Bubba
> >
> >What are the other cats' names?
>
> Cundalini?
> Johnny?
> Mudguts?

Licious?
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[sweller]

Bear wrote:

> > >> In fact Bubba
> > >
> > > What are the other cats' names?
> >
> > Cundalini?
> > Johnny?
> > Mudguts?
>
> Licious?

"No style"

--
Simon

http://www.sweller.co.uk/sob/

[Champ]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 06:25:06 +0000, "sweller" <ng@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Bear wrote:
>
>> > >> In fact Bubba
>> > >
>> > > What are the other cats' names?
>> >
>> > Cundalini?
>> > Johnny?
>> > Mudguts?
>>
>> Licious?
>
>"No style"

"Do ya, chicken****"
--
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Champ
GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com

[sweller]

Champ wrote:

> >> > >> In fact Bubba
> >> > >
> >> > > What are the other cats' names?
> >> >
> >> > Cundalini?
> >> > Johnny?
> >> > Mudguts?
> >>
> >> Licious?
> >
> > "No style"
>
> "Do ya, chicken****"

"Easy, I know what I'm doing"

--
Simon

http://www.sweller.co.uk/sob/

[Champ]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:33:59 +0000, "sweller" <ng@mztech.fsnet.co.uk>
wrote:

>Champ wrote:
>
>> >> > >> In fact Bubba
>> >> > >
>> >> > > What are the other cats' names?
>> >> >
>> >> > Cundalini?
>> >> > Johnny?
>> >> > Mudguts?
>> >>
>> >> Licious?
>> >
>> > "No style"
>>
>> "Do ya, chicken****"
>
>"Easy, I know what I'm doing"

Now those *were* some famous last words :-)
--
Please add "imo" to above post.
Champ
GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com

[genuine_froggie]

Ace <b.rogers@virgin.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:56:03 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
> <grimlycurmudgeon683@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>>drugs began to take hold. I remember genuine_froggie
>><genuine_froggie@zeouane.org> saying something like:
>>>Phil Launchbury <phill@launchbury.org.uk> wrote:

>>>> <Waves sumatriptan[1]>

>>>> [1] Blocks the mechanism that dilates the blood vessels I think - Ace?

>>>No, no. Ace just blocks the mechanism that allows the pain in your
>>>backside to subside.

>>**** me; that was funny.

> And I's so pleased you repeated it to share the mirth with the rest of
> us.
>
> Actually, I can't for the life of me work out exactly how it's
> supposed to be an insult,

No. I daresay that you can't.

> although I realise it must be. Pathetic, really.

Well if the shoe fits ...

--
genuine_froggie@zeouane.org
UKRM's Man in France
BMW K100-LT
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[Phil Launchbury]

In article <xn0dxev5bc96vs000@news.individual.net>, sweller wrote:
> Phil Launchbury wrote:
>
>> In fact Bubba
>
> What are the other cats' names?

Torr (male, 16, not looking for fun)
Bracken (female, 16, enjoys harassing Torr)

Phil.

--
Phil Launchbury, IT PHB
Triumph Tiger 955i
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <MPG.1c57b03b48bceb20989b7d@News.individual.net>, Bear wrote:
>> Mudguts?
>
> Licious?

McDowell more likely..[1]

Phil.

[1] There used to be an Offensive Lineman in American Football with a
stomach that overhung his waistband considerably. Bubba (real name
Calico) is named in his honour due to her similarity in girth

--
Phil Launchbury, IT PHB
Triumph Tiger 955i
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'

[Bear]

In article <slrncuvanp.t2r.phill@tabby.launchbury.org.uk>, Phil
Launchbury says...
> In article <MPG.1c57b03b48bceb20989b7d@News.individual.net>, Bear wrote:
> >> Mudguts?
> >
> > Licious?
>
> McDowell more likely..[1]
>
> Phil.
>
> [1] There used to be an Offensive Lineman in American Football with a
> stomach that overhung his waistband considerably.

I knew that.
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

[Phil Launchbury]

In article <MPG.1c59c9b5218c7d57989bc3@News.individual.net>, Bear wrote:
> In article <slrncuvanp.t2r.phill@tabby.launchbury.org.uk>, Phil
> Launchbury says...
>>
>> McDowell more likely..[1]
>>
>> Phil.
>>
>> [1] There used to be an Offensive Lineman in American Football with a
>> stomach that overhung his waistband considerably.
>
> I knew that.

Me old fruity!

Phil

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Triumph Tiger 955i
'I'm training the bats that live in my cube
to juggle mushrooms'