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Stefan
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
Can anyone explain this?

On my 97 speed triple, the rev counter needle tends to dart around
wildly, even when the revs are constant. I cant work out why it is
doing this, and its not a serious problem because I rarely look at it
anyway, just may be a problem when I want to sell. Anyone got any
suggestions on how to fix it?

Whinging Courier
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
In uk.rec.motorcycles, Stefan wrote:

> Can anyone explain this?
>
> On my 97 speed triple, the rev counter needle tends to dart around
> wildly, even when the revs are constant. I cant work out why it is
> doing this, and its not a serious problem because I rarely look at it
> anyway, just may be a problem when I want to sell. Anyone got any
> suggestions on how to fix it?

What's the other problem?

--
CBR1000 - Work in progress
BOMB#14 ibW#40

Adrienne M Bonwick
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
On 12 Jan 2005 06:17:26 -0800, pr9spk@hotmail.com (Stefan) wrote:

>Can anyone explain this?
>
>On my 97 speed triple, the rev counter needle tends to dart around
>wildly, even when the revs are constant. I cant work out why it is
>doing this, and its not a serious problem because I rarely look at it
>anyway, just may be a problem when I want to sell. Anyone got any
>suggestions on how to fix it?

buy a new cable.

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Adie
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MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11

Nigel Eaton
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Adrienne M
Bonwick <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> typed
>On 12 Jan 2005 06:17:26 -0800, pr9spk@hotmail.com (Stefan) wrote:
>
>>Can anyone explain this?
>>
>>On my 97 speed triple, the rev counter needle tends to dart around
>>wildly, even when the revs are constant. I cant work out why it is
>>doing this, and its not a serious problem because I rarely look at it
>>anyway, just may be a problem when I want to sell. Anyone got any
>>suggestions on how to fix it?
>
>buy a new cable.

Is the rev counter mechanical on them?

--
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ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
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Adrienne M Bonwick
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:35:26 +0000, Nigel Eaton
<nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Adrienne M
>Bonwick <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> typed
>>On 12 Jan 2005 06:17:26 -0800, pr9spk@hotmail.com (Stefan) wrote:
>>
>>>Can anyone explain this?
>>>
>>>On my 97 speed triple, the rev counter needle tends to dart around
>>>wildly, even when the revs are constant. I cant work out why it is
>>>doing this, and its not a serious problem because I rarely look at it
>>>anyway, just may be a problem when I want to sell. Anyone got any
>>>suggestions on how to fix it?
>>
>>buy a new cable.
>
>Is the rev counter mechanical on them?

havent got a clue. I'll check when I get home though I'm hoping SWrK
will be along shortly. I only suggested it cos when mine have been
about to break in the past its done strange things as the original
post.
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Adie
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UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/

Triumph 955iSS / GSF1200 bandit / CG125
MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11

Nigel Eaton
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Adrienne M
Bonwick <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> typed
>On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:35:26 +0000, Nigel Eaton
><nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Adrienne M
>>Bonwick <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> typed
>>>On 12 Jan 2005 06:17:26 -0800, pr9spk@hotmail.com (Stefan) wrote:
>>>
>>>>Can anyone explain this?
>>>>
>>>>On my 97 speed triple, the rev counter needle tends to dart around
>>>>wildly, even when the revs are constant. I cant work out why it is
>>>>doing this, and its not a serious problem because I rarely look at it
>>>>anyway, just may be a problem when I want to sell. Anyone got any
>>>>suggestions on how to fix it?
>>>
>>>buy a new cable.
>>
>>Is the rev counter mechanical on them?
>
>havent got a clue. I'll check when I get home though I'm hoping SWrK
>will be along shortly. I only suggested it cos when mine have been
>about to break in the past its done strange things as the original
>post.

Oh, OK, must be then.

--
Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

Adrienne M Bonwick
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:04:31 +0000, Nigel Eaton
<nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Adrienne M
>Bonwick <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> typed
>>On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:35:26 +0000, Nigel Eaton
>><nigele@rcav8r.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Adrienne M
>>>Bonwick <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> typed
>>>>On 12 Jan 2005 06:17:26 -0800, pr9spk@hotmail.com (Stefan) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Can anyone explain this?
>>>>>
>>>>>On my 97 speed triple, the rev counter needle tends to dart around
>>>>>wildly, even when the revs are constant. I cant work out why it is
>>>>>doing this, and its not a serious problem because I rarely look at it
>>>>>anyway, just may be a problem when I want to sell. Anyone got any
>>>>>suggestions on how to fix it?
>>>>
>>>>buy a new cable.
>>>
>>>Is the rev counter mechanical on them?
>>
>>havent got a clue. I'll check when I get home though I'm hoping SWrK
>>will be along shortly. I only suggested it cos when mine have been
>>about to break in the past its done strange things as the original
>>post.
>
>Oh, OK, must be then.

may not be. it wasnt a trumpet it happened on.

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Triumph 955iSS / GSF1200 bandit / CG125
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tallbloke
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
pr9spk@hotmail.com (Stefan) wrote in news:87cce52e.0501120617.5d2910c2
@posting.google.com:

> Can anyone explain this?
>
> On my 97 speed triple, the rev counter needle tends to dart around
> wildly, even when the revs are constant. I cant work out why it is
> doing this, and its not a serious problem because I rarely look at it
> anyway, just may be a problem when I want to sell. Anyone got any
> suggestions on how to fix it?

If it's electronic, check the earths. If it's mechanical lube all but the top
2" of the cable inner sparingly with hmp grey grease.

--
tallbloke
Tasmin350i MatchlessG80
BONY#1 DIAABTCOD#8 OSOS#27 SKA#3

J Barry Galbraith
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder. The
variations on the needle tel me about a possible fault on the bike.

May not be the same on yours but definately worth a look in the manual I
owuls have thought.


"tallbloke" <spamtrap@tallbloke.net> wrote in message
news:Xns95DC9BBC36341guinnessisgood@216.196.97.142 ...
> pr9spk@hotmail.com (Stefan) wrote in news:87cce52e.0501120617.5d2910c2
> @posting.google.com:
>
> > Can anyone explain this?
> >
> > On my 97 speed triple, the rev counter needle tends to dart around
> > wildly, even when the revs are constant. I cant work out why it is
> > doing this, and its not a serious problem because I rarely look at it
> > anyway, just may be a problem when I want to sell. Anyone got any
> > suggestions on how to fix it?
>
> If it's electronic, check the earths. If it's mechanical lube all but the
top
> 2" of the cable inner sparingly with hmp grey grease.
>
> --
> tallbloke
> Tasmin350i MatchlessG80
> BONY#1 DIAABTCOD#8 OSOS#27 SKA#3

Preston Kemp
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
Stefan wrote:

> Can anyone explain this?
>
> On my 97 speed triple, the rev counter needle tends to dart around
> wildly, even when the revs are constant. I cant work out why it is
> doing this, and its not a serious problem because I rarely look at it
> anyway, just may be a problem when I want to sell. Anyone got any
> suggestions on how to fix it?

Check the connectors on the #2 coil next time you're in the area.

--
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http://www.muddystuff.co.uk
Off-road classifieds

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Adrienne M Bonwick
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:44:31 -0000, "J Barry Galbraith"
<barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote:

>On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.

will it also do fault finding on top posting? go away and read the
FFAQ.

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Adie
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Triumph 955iSS / GSF1200 bandit / CG125
MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11

J Barry Galbraith
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
"Adrienne M Bonwick" <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote in message

<snip>
> >On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.
>
> will it also do fault finding on top posting? go away and read the
> FFAQ.
>
> --
> Adie
<snip>

The FFAQ (why 2 F's though?) say:

"
The charter can be seen in full at
http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.motorcycles.html but there are really only
two essential points to observe which are:

Commercial advertising is forbidden
Adverts are allowed but only from individuals selling privately.

Binaries are not permitted
but you can post binaries to a binary group
or (even better) on a web page and post the URL to ukrm. "

Thanks for the welcome by the way.

steve auvache
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
J Barry Galbraith wrote
>On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder. The
>variations on the needle tel me about a possible fault on the bike.
>
>May not be the same on yours but definately worth a look in the manual I
>owuls have thought.

Excellent.

As you raised the subject mentioned manuals and the usefulness of
reading them, please let me be one of those to bring to your attention
the one for ukrm. It is call the ffaq by some and the faq by others.
In addition there is a cbt (our little joke). Both are really well
worth reading if you wish to have a hassle free start to your stay here.

--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

Adrienne M Bonwick
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:05:30 -0000, "J Barry Galbraith"
<barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote:

>The FFAQ (why 2 F's though?) say:

cos its enough to make most of us swear

>"
>The charter can be seen in full at
>http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.motorcycles.html but there are really only
>two essential points to observe which are:
>
>Commercial advertising is forbidden
>Adverts are allowed but only from individuals selling privately.
>
>Binaries are not permitted
>but you can post binaries to a binary group
>or (even better) on a web page and post the URL to ukrm. "
>
>Thanks for the welcome by the way.

ho you think I'm being nasty. you're in for a shock.

go away and read section 1.8, posting style

http://www.ukrm.net/faq/The_Newsgroup/Posting_Style.html

and then come back, post at the bottom, learn to snip and remove sigs.

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Adie
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Triumph 955iSS / GSF1200 bandit / CG125
MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11

flash
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
"J Barry Galbraith" <barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:newscache$m5m7ai$aue$1@cache4.lsbu.ac.uk...
> On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.
The
> variations on the needle tel me about a possible fault on the bike.
>

So how does that work then? Is it when going along or just on start up?

steve auvache
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
J Barry Galbraith wrote
>
>"Adrienne M Bonwick" <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote in message
>
><snip>
>> >On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.
>>
>> will it also do fault finding on top posting? go away and read the
>> FFAQ.
>>
>> --
>> Adie
><snip>
>
>The FFAQ (why 2 F's though?) say:

This is ukrm, expletives are obligatory.
--
steve auvache
MZ TS150: for sale still.
Bandit 600

Doesnotcompute
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
JBG said:

>The FFAQ (why 2 F's though?) say:

<snip>

Well you must have read it, as you got it right this time.

The second 'F' is 'frequent' btw.

--
Dnc

tallbloke
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
"flash" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in news:34l0asF4be04pU1@individual.net:

>
> "J Barry Galbraith" <barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:newscache$m5m7ai$aue$1@cache4.lsbu.ac.uk...
>> On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.
> The
>> variations on the needle tel me about a possible fault on the bike.
>>
>
> So how does that work then? Is it when going along or just on start up?
>
>
>

When it points to 11 it means the throttles jammed open.

--
tallbloke
Tasmin350i MatchlessG80
BONY#1 DIAABTCOD#8 OSOS#27 SKA#3

tallbloke
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
Adrienne M Bonwick <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote in
news:3niau09mu39h3bvbrc77h58oql3n7vktd2@4ax.com:

> and then come back, post at the bottom, learn to snip and remove sigs.

Errr Adie, he did post vat the bottom in his reply to you, and did snip most
of your .sig too...

--
tallbloke
Tasmin350i MatchlessG80
BONY#1 DIAABTCOD#8 OSOS#27 SKA#3

Adrienne M Bonwick
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:16:46 -0600, tallbloke <spamtrap@tallbloke.net>
wrote:

>Adrienne M Bonwick <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote in
>news:3niau09mu39h3bvbrc77h58oql3n7vktd2@4ax.com:
>
>> and then come back, post at the bottom, learn to snip and remove sigs.
>
>Errr Adie, he did post vat the bottom in his reply to you, and did snip most
>of your .sig too...

ah but most isnt all is it?

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Adie
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MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11

J Barry Galbraith
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
"flash" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:34l0asF4be04pU1@individual.net...
>
> So how does that work then? Is it when going along or just on start up?
>

To be honest I can't remember. It only happened once and that was over two
years ago.

tallbloke
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
"J Barry Galbraith" <barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote in
news:newscache$m5m7ai$aue$1@cache4.lsbu.ac.uk:

> On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.
> The variations on the needle tel me about a possible fault on the bike.
>
> May not be the same on yours but definately worth a look in the manual I
> owuls have thought.
>

It's not my bike or my problem, I responded to the original poster. I'm
intrigued by the fault finder though, does it give these indications at any
time, or only when you start a special procedure?

--
tallbloke
Tasmin350i MatchlessG80
BONY#1 DIAABTCOD#8 OSOS#27 SKA#3

flash
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
"J Barry Galbraith" <barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:newscache$y8o7ai$cwe$1@cache4.lsbu.ac.uk...
>
> "flash" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:34l0asF4be04pU1@individual.net...
> >
> > So how does that work then? Is it when going along or just on start up?
> >
>
> To be honest I can't remember. It only happened once and that was over
two
> years ago.
>

Any chance of you making something exciting up?

tallbloke
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
Adrienne M Bonwick <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote in
news:6gjau0peg3tve7tboar4l3bjaiuiujnld3@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:16:46 -0600, tallbloke <spamtrap@tallbloke.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Adrienne M Bonwick <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote in
>>news:3niau09mu39h3bvbrc77h58oql3n7vktd2@4ax.com:
>>
>>> and then come back, post at the bottom, learn to snip and remove sigs.
>>
>>Errr Adie, he did post vat the bottom in his reply to you, and did snip
>>most of your .sig too...
>
> ah but most isnt all is it?
>

No but it's a start ;-)

--
tallbloke
Tasmin350i MatchlessG80
BONY#1 DIAABTCOD#8 OSOS#27 SKA#3

Preston Kemp
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
tallbloke wrote:

> "J Barry Galbraith" <barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote in
> news:newscache$m5m7ai$aue$1@cache4.lsbu.ac.uk:
>
> > On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault
> > finder. The variations on the needle tel me about a possible fault
> > on the bike.
> >
> > May not be the same on yours but definately worth a look in the
> > manual I owuls have thought.
> >
>
> It's not my bike or my problem, I responded to the original poster.
> I'm intrigued by the fault finder though, does it give these
> indications at any time, or only when you start a special procedure?

Some Triumphs have a partial fault finding mode - if the tacho drops to
zero quickly followed by the engine stopping, it means the ignition
pick-up coils blown up :-)

--
Preston.

http://www.muddystuff.co.uk
Off-road classifieds

'02 MV Senna '96 Tiger '79 Fantic 250
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uk_tiger_rides

J Barry Galbraith
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
"tallbloke" said
<snip>
does it give these indications at any
> time, or only when you start a special procedure?
<snip>

On start-up... can't remember how long it or if it continued for any length
of time.

Champ
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:02:40 -0000, "flash" <nospam@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"J Barry Galbraith" <barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:newscache$m5m7ai$aue$1@cache4.lsbu.ac.uk...
>> On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.
>The
>> variations on the needle tel me about a possible fault on the bike.
>>
>
>So how does that work then? Is it when going along or just on start up?

When you switch it on, and before you start the engine, it does a self
test. Suzukis do it too. I've never seen one indicate an error
condition, but I think it's along the lines of "if the needle points
at 4000 rpm then the engine temp sensor has failed" or somesuch.
--
Please add "imo" to above post.
Champ
GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2
GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8
Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com

Beav
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
"J Barry Galbraith" <barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:newscache$k4n7ai$9ve$1@cache4.lsbu.ac.uk...
>
> "Adrienne M Bonwick" <spam@AdrienneMJenn.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> <snip>
>> >On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.
>>
>> will it also do fault finding on top posting? go away and read the
>> FFAQ.
>>
>> --
>> Adie
> <snip>
>
> The FFAQ (why 2 F's though?) say:

Let me guess...
>
> "
> The charter can be seen in full at
> http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.rec.motorcycles.html but there are really only
> two essential points to observe which are:
>
> Commercial advertising is forbidden
> Adverts are allowed but only from individuals selling privately.
>
> Binaries are not permitted
> but you can post binaries to a binary group
> or (even better) on a web page and post the URL to ukrm. "
>
> Thanks for the welcome by the way.

That WAS a welcome on here, believe you me. At least you weren't called a TC
first day:))

Beav

RealMart
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
"tallbloke" <spamtrap@tallbloke.net> wrote in message
news:Xns95DCA68A07FF4guinnessisgood@216.196.97.142 ...
> It's not my bike or my problem, I responded to the original poster. I'm
> intrigued by the fault finder though, does it give these indications at
> any
> time, or only when you start a special procedure?
>

You get them when there's a fault detected when you start the engine, and
they seem to carry on going if you decide to ride away regardless.

On the Fazer 1000, the needle flicks from zero to the fault indication rpm
(ie. 7k is "exup valve seized"), then back to zero, then to the actual
engine revs for a couple of seconds, then back to zero to begin the cycle
again.

Just looked it up, and 3k is for the throttle position sensor, 4k for the
speed sensor, 7k for the exup valve, 9 k for the tip-over switch, and 12k
for valve bounce.

HTH, etc.

Bear
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
In article <34l0asF4be04pU1@individual.net>, flash says...
>
> "J Barry Galbraith" <barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:newscache$m5m7ai$aue$1@cache4.lsbu.ac.uk...
> > On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.
> The
> > variations on the needle tel me about a possible fault on the bike.
>
> So how does that work then? Is it when going along or just on start up?

Both. My R1 did this; when you switch it on, every 7 seconds (IIRC) it
goes into "fault display mode", where the needle points solidly to one
number on the tacho (and these aren't the right numbers, but you get the
idea) for 2 seconds at a time;

2,000 rpm: Throttle position sensor dead
7,000 rpm: Fuel warning light bulb failure (good idea, that)
9,000 rpm: EXUP valve not returning to correct position
15,000 rpm: You've started the bike with the throttle wide open; in 5
seconds your pistons will join you for afternoon tea.

That sort of thing. Quite clever, but scared the crap out of me when it
first happened (EXUP valve sticking; cured itself after a good hooning)
--
Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
Today's music: Miles Davis "Kind Of Blue"

Bear
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
In article <9qkau0pd9t2id7ql5im5435fol0ekp4bs7@4ax.com>, Champ says...
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:02:40 -0000, "flash" <nospam@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"J Barry Galbraith" <barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote in message
> >news:newscache$m5m7ai$aue$1@cache4.lsbu.ac.uk...
> >> On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.
> >The
> >> variations on the needle tel me about a possible fault on the bike.
> >>
> >
> >So how does that work then? Is it when going along or just on start up?
>
> When you switch it on, and before you start the engine, it does a self
> test. Suzukis do it too. I've never seen one indicate an error
> condition, but I think it's along the lines of "if the needle points
> at 4000 rpm then the engine temp sensor has failed" or somesuch.

Yep. On the R1 it continues to do it even when the engine's running
though, in case (say) the fuel warning light bulb blows while you're
out.
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Bear
"Don't believe the hype"
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OH-
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
"flash" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in news:34l0asF4be04pU1@individual.net...
>
> "J Barry Galbraith" <barry.galbraith@lsbu.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:newscache$m5m7ai$aue$1@cache4.lsbu.ac.uk...
>> On my bike (Yamaha Fazer) the rev counter doubles up as a fault finder.
> The
>> variations on the needle tel me about a possible fault on the bike.
>>
>
> So how does that work then? Is it when going along or just on start up?

On the Tedium it is supposed to do rather odd things if the throttle
position sensor (TPS) is out of order. More amazing is that if you have
to calibrate the TPS you can make the rev counter read degrees of
throttle position by disconnecting and reconnecting things in a certain
order. - "What revs were you at?" - "I have no idea but I had 76
degrees throttle angle".

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The Older Gentleman
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
tallbloke <spamtrap@tallbloke.net> wrote:

> It's not my bike or my problem, I responded to the original poster. I'm
> intrigued by the fault finder though, does it give these indications at any
> time, or only when you start a special procedure?

RTFM. On my Divvie, if you started it up and the rev counter needle went
instantly to 5k and stayed there (irrespective of what revs the engine
was actually doing) it meant the throttle position sensor needed
adjusting.

Lots of bikes use electronic tachos as fault-finders. Injected GSXRs,
for a start.


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sweller
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
Adrienne M Bonwick wrote:

> buy a new cable.

Greasing it may fix the problem.

--
Simon

http://www.sweller.co.uk/sob/

Lozzo
01-21-2005, 03:59 AM
The Older Gentleman says...
> tallbloke <spamtrap@tallbloke.net> wrote:
>
> > It's not my bike or my problem, I responded to the original poster. I'm
> > intrigued by the fault finder though, does it give these indications at any
> > time, or only when you start a special procedure?
>
> RTFM. On my Divvie, if you started it up and the rev counter needle went
> instantly to 5k and stayed there (irrespective of what revs the engine
> was actually doing) it meant the throttle position sensor needed
> adjusting.
>
> Lots of bikes use electronic tachos as fault-finders. Injected GSXRs,
> for a start.

Thunderaces too.

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Lozzo
ZX-9R
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