Have you been contacted by people overseas offering to buy [Archive]

imported_admin

05-22-2003, 12:01 PM

There is a scam involving people from overseas targeting car owners with a view to shipping it across to their country. You will lose out on this, if you get someone contact you just ignore it. You have to ask why would they want to buy my car and pay for the shipping too! Here are details of what happened to one car owner

I am writing this letter to all webmasters who are hosting online classifieds for cars, boats, etc. I was the victim of a Nigerian scam where I listed a classic car for sale on one of these types of sites. And I was approached by several different international buyers (probably all the same guy). Offering to buy my car for my asking price. They would take care of shipping of course. They sent me a cashiers check for the car plus the cost of shipping. The check was drafted from a wells fargo bank in the US. They have you wire the balance to a "shipper". The cashiers check will turn out to be a phony even though the bank verifies it while you are standing at the counter. You think you get your money, and you send the funds for shipping. A few days later I had to pay the bank back $4000.00.

Please add a notice or a warning to your sellers. NOT TO SELL INTERNATIONAL AT ALL!. ESPECIALLY TO NIGERIA These people have counter-parts working in the UK and around the world. It is a very elaborate scam. And it will trap even honest intelligent people just trying to sell a car. reply to me for more details. I am trying to make people aware so that they are not victimized by these financial terrorist. Awareness is the only protection. Please reply and let me know that you have read this. It might make me feel better about the whole thing. Thanks

Daryl

Anonymous

05-30-2003, 09:36 PM

Having placed a car advertisement onto various sites, within hours I have received telephone calls from overseas.

The caller has stated that I have (apparently) the same bank account and they have been informed that I would be willing to invest money into some form of financial concern.

Obviously confused, I have asked the caller how they have obtained the telephone number? I am told that it is probable that a bank or credit card company have forwarded my details? I don't think so, this would contravene data protection legislation!!

More like someone is accessing car ads for contact details or the web site itself has forwarded information.

Again this is a scam, do not fall for it, hang up....

Jackie

imported_admin

06-01-2003, 08:58 AM

There seems no end to the desperate measures these people will take to try to scam people! You were right to be suspicious = but just think how many others will fall for it?

Iain
www.cheap-finance.co.uk
as it says cheap Uk finance

Anonymous

06-06-2003, 12:36 PM

I was nearly taken in with this exact scam, but instead I waited for the cheque to actually clear. Menwhile this guy, calling himself Daniel Sylvestre, kept on calling me and hassling me me for the money trying to make me feel guilty. The more he phoned, the more suspicious I became. Eventually the bank took out what they had put in and I told Daniel this, I have not heard from him since. I think all the people who were victims or near victims should gather all of the email addresses together and help catch this toe rag who has done this.

Anonymous

06-08-2003, 06:53 AM

Still despite me adding warnings to the reply page they try to rip off users of usedcarmart!

for your interest they follow these lines. I would mention it to Yahoo.com but they would rather you got ripped off than delete the guilty account!

Hello,

I just came across the advert of your vehicle on the web and could not help but be interested in it.

I will want the photos sent to me via e mail so I can verify the present condition by myself.

I will also want a discount on the vehicle because I will handle the freight/shipping of the vehicle down to West Africa where it will be resold.

I look forward to your soonest response.

Thanks

Sincerely,

David Johnson

C.E.O Johnson Enterprises
And this one from smithbruce_dre@yahoo.com

Heloo Mpattel,
I am an american business man who is presently in south africa.i saw you advert for the sales of your Focus Ghia 2.0i.i am well pleased with the price £8500 .let me know if you accept a Euro cahiers check for payment. Thanks, Carpo
This one from smithbruce_dre@yahoo.com see same email but he has forgotton his name is carpo

Hello Lofty,
I am an american business man who is presently in south africa.i saw you advert for the sales of your FORD PUMA METALIC GREEN.i am well plesaced with the price £9000 .let me know if you accept a Euro cahiers check for payment. Thanks, Dr

They have a template with
ENTER CAR MAKE - IN CAPITALS
I really am fed up with these muppets any suggestions?

Iain

Anonymous

06-08-2003, 04:25 PM

Hi there
I have been sent this E. Does it look familiar? Think it is a scam? kuma4love@yahoo.com

Hello
i am a dealer from west african and i have a client that own me some money in london so that i can used the advantage bto bye the yamaha and my shippingagent with come and pick it up,
thanks

HELLO,
>I AM A AFRICAN DEALE,AND I AM INTRETSED IN YOURYamaha AND
>I WANT TO KNOW THE CONDITION OF IT AND I WILL LIKE TO PAY YOU
>BY CASHIER CHECK SO
>REGARD

Have told him to send the cheque, and when I have cashed it the bike can be collected. Also it his hir responsibility to sort out all dealings with any other party, Eg the shipper. So if he sends the money Great.
If not #%”!*/|` or words to that effect.

jmarshall0

06-10-2003, 06:58 AM

I've received the following enquiry today after placing an ad yesterday. I shall not be replying.

8O

HELLO
I AM INTRESTED IN BUYING THIS(mazda of 1, 800 pounds) FOR MY
CLIENT , BUT MY CLIENT CAN ONLY PAY WITH CERTIFIED CASHIES CHECK AND I
ALSO HAVE A SHIPPING AGENT FOR THE GOODS, SO PLEASE MAIL ME BACK IF YOU ARE
INTRESTED IN SELLING THE CAR AND FORWARD YOUR
CONTACT NAME
CONTACT ADDRESS
AND CONSTANT PHONE NUMBER FOR CONSTANT CONTACT

THANKS

JONESMIKE

-----------------------------
WARNING SCAM ALERT.... DO NOT sell or negotiate selling your car with
anyone from overseas!
There is a scam going around, with certain countries (mainly Nigeria)
expressing an urgent need to buy your car. They want to send you a
check/cheque, if you agree they send you a cheque for more than the amount.
In the USA they will express clear the cheque, you then wire the money over
the price of the car to his shipping agent, who will supposedly come to
pick the car up & ship back.

The cheque is fake & bounces you are then in debt to the bank.
Deal only with people in your country that actually come to see the car.
Ask yourself the simple question - why when there are so many cars all over
the world would someone want to buy your car and then add ££££s to ship it
overseas? - crazy this may be but people are getting stung to the tune of a
few grand!

Please be warned is all I can say
For your interest see http://www.usedcarmart.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=15

P.S If you do think someone is genuine but wants to pay by cheque make sure
it clears, do not wire them money - send them a cheque!

-----------------------------
Reply From jonesmike

Email address jonesmike@mail.com

Sent by http://www.usedcarmart.co.uk - please let us know if you get a
result!

Anonymous

06-15-2003, 09:43 AM

i recently had an e-mail from someone in ireland wishing to purchase my car, he told me he was currently in the uk. He asked for more information and pictures, i sent these back via e-mail and lo and behold the following day received an e-mail back saying he had to rush to the usa because his daughter was in an accitdent but someone in the uk owed him money and would send me a check, could i forward the rest to the shipping agent etc;. i replied to him that the car was cheap anyway, i wanted a quick sale so i wouldn't get involved in lengthy money transactions.
beware not just from nigeria!!!! :)

Anonymous

06-18-2003, 04:09 PM

I have also been contacted by this guy in Ireland and his daughter was also in car crash must be the same guy. Shane McMullin apparently.

This was the message:

Hello,
Thanks for your rapid response. The CAR condition suits me very much is
your price is also okay with me. I however want you to that i had to travel over
to the states because i reieved a phone call that my only daughter was involved
in car crash and she has been admitted in a hospital in the states. So i am now
presently in the states. I want you to know that i am still very interested in
purchasing the CAR from you. But since i am not presently In Ireland i have
instructed a business partner in U.K who is owing me £2700 to issue you a check
for that amount.

What i will like you to do after recieving the check is to cash it and
then take the amount for the CAR, and then send the balance to my shipping agent
VIA MONEY GRAM or WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER so that he can arrange to come to
your house and pick the from you. If this is okay by you, I will like you to
provide me with your contact address so that payment can be made out to you
ASAP. I will require your contact info as thus:

FULL NAME...............

ADDRESS..........

CITY..............

STATE...............

ZIP CODE...............

COUNTRY.............

HOME/ CELL PHONE NUMBER.............

I hope to read from you soonest,

Thanks,

Yours sincerely,

Shane Mullin.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Katja Fenton" <katjafenton@>
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:21:48 +0100
To: shane.mullin_01@graffiti.net
Subject: Re: Used Car Mart - Reply to AD#6823 (Citroen AX Jazz)

> Hi Shane,
>
> Thanks for your email. I haven't sold the car yet. Only advertised it a few
> days ago and you're the first to reply!
>
> I've attached some pictures for you to see it. I'm asking for £500 for it.
> Everything works except the heater fan makes a noise so i never use it. As
> long as the vents are open and the car moves the windscreen won't mist up in
> the winter.
>
> It also needs regular water as it seems to use quite a lot and i check the
> oil about every month now. I've had new brake pads put on last month and
> exhaust pipe. Apart from that, I've never replaced anything in the 4 1/2
> years I've owned it (except the tyres as they had worn).
>
> It's very economical. Does about 220 miles on a tank and costs about £24 to
> fil.
>
> It's got an MOT until 26th October and taxed til 31st October.
>
> There is no rust on the car, it is missing the back 2 hubcaps but these
> could easily be replaced from a junk yard. It also needs a new seat cover on
> the driver seat.
>
> It has a sunroof and tape deck. I've actually replaced the stereo with a CD
> player but that's not included in the sale.
>
> At the moment i'm finishinh my exams in Nottingham but i live in London
> (east finchley) so either place would be convenient to meet.
>
> I hope that answers all your questions. If you have any others, please don't
> hesitate to ask.
>
> Thanks for your interest,
>
> Katja Fenton
> >From: "shane" <shane.mullin_01@graffiti.net>
> >To: katjafenton@
> >Subject: Used Car Mart - Reply to AD#6823 (Citroen AX Jazz)
> >Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:06:40 -0400
> >
> >hello mate,
> >
> > I came across your ad for your vehicle and i was hoping that it
> >will
> >still be up for sale . I have been searching for what you have for sale for
> >a long time because of my sons birthday coming up soon. If it is, i will
> >like to know what your last price is and also i will also like to have a
> >detailed and up-to date description on the present condition of the car and
> >also i will like you to forward any available pictures to me in your reply.
> >I will also like to know where you are located presently. I am presently
> >based in the U.K. My personal email address is
> >shane.mullin_01@graffiti.net. I am also located in Dublin 2, Ireland
> >
> > I hope to read from you soonest,
> >
> > cheerio,
> >
> >Shane Mullin...

Anonymous

06-23-2003, 10:41 PM

:roll: Almost had me too!

These were the e-mails I had:
hello iam intrested in buying your BMW 320i Coupe Auto for my daugther who is getting married in southafrica soon,i live in the us but iam presently in spain with my wife,so you will e mail me the total cost with shipping cost to south africa and the payment is going to be made in america personal check,so please mail me if this will be acceptable because it is going to be send to you by my personal assistance presently in the us.it is needed as soon as possible. from terry smith [terrysmithbest2003@yahoo.com]

Then:

hello thanks for your response,the check will be made in american dollars but it seems you said it will take upto 6 to 8 weeks for it to clear over there,no problem on this but i want you to assist me in paying the shipper by nextweek when i send the check to you so that they can start arrangement from thier end immediately so as to meet up with the purpose of buying the car,so you can contact them on medlinkworldwideshippingagency@yahoo.com for discussion with them

Dodgy shipping company too!

Response from them was by far the most 'african':

GOOD DAY MR *****,THE NAME OF OUR COMPANY IS MEDLINKWORLDWIDESHIPPINGAGENCY,WE ARE LOCATED IN SIX AFRICAN COUNTRIES WHICH INCLUDE NIGERIA, CAMEROUN, SOUTH AFRICA,TUNISIA AND MORROCCO,OUR HEAD OFFICE IS BASE IN NIGERIA,PRESENTLY OUR WEBSITE IS UNDER CONSRUCTION WHICH WILL SOON SEE THE LIGHT OF THE DAY.
MR TERRY CONTACTED OUR SOUTH AFRICA BRANCH TO HANDLE THE SHIPPING OF THE CAR TO SOUTH AFRICA AND DUE TO THE URGENCY AND TIME IT WAS REFERED TO US FROM SOUTH AFRICA IN WHICH WE WILL DO THE HANDLING FROM A NEAREST PORT FROM YOUR HOUSE DOWN HERE IN NIGERIA PORT IN LAGOS SO OUR SOUTH AFRICA COUNTERPERT WILL DO THE HANDLING FROM THE PORT HERE IN LAGOS TO SOUTH AFRICA.
SO ALL THESE WILL BE DONE IN A SHORTEST PERIOD OF TIME WITHIN THE TIME LIMIT GIVEN TO US BY MR TERRY BECAUSE WILL ARE USING OUR PERSONAL CARGO OPERATOR.
OUR CONTACT HEAD OFFICE ADDRESS IS AT NO 21 MARCONI DRIVE ANTHONY LAGOS NIGERIA
PHONE.2341,8023416414 SO YOU CAN CONTACT US ON MONDAY TO FRIDAY 8AM TO 7.PM AND ON SATURDAY 9AM TO 4 PM.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR $5000 FROM HIM,WHICH INCLUDE THE PAYMENT FOR US AND OUR SOUTH AFRICA BRANCH,THIS WILL BE USE FOR THE SPEEDY HANDLING OF THE CAR AND HE HAS AGREED TO PAY THAT THE CAR IS NEEDED FOR AN IMPORTANT PROGRAMME AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.SO WE ALSO INFORMED HIM THAT THE ONLY WAY WHICH COULD MAKE THE HANDLING AND SHIPPING POSSIBLE IS TO MAKE OUR PAYMENT POSSIBLE BEFORE THE END OF NEXT WEEK.
WE SHALL BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.
MR AJIBOLA DAVIES
FOR MEDLINK .

Suddenly his daughter has become a son and his bank were the best named bank in the USA...... The Chevy Chase Bank! They phoned me from the 'USA' but with loads of african voices in the background. Could not answer a straight forward question without conferring. It was a laugh by this stage as my girlfriend was threatening to kill me if I had sold to them..... so 2 lucky escapes there then!!!

hello thanks for your response,please you have to bear with considering the fact it is a bank so i have to be patient with them and moreso i will try my possible best that they give you the call today so please bear with me,also please i have dovoted my time and mind on the car for my son so please i have no other place to get the car from now and i have little time towards the day so please kindly assist me.i will make sure you are call by my bank today

Also had e-mails from:

edward carey [carey_edwardsauto@yahoo.com]

mike law [mike_law2004@yahoo.com]

tolu williams [transbikeltd@yahoo.com]

Can't Yahoo kick them off?!?!?!?!

Anonymous

06-24-2003, 11:32 AM

These are the initial e-mails I got as a reply on my advert. Did have some correspondence with them – that’s why I sometimes state several names etc. The replies where like the other mentioned in this Message board. Luckily I noticed in time.

hello mate, I came across your ad for your vehicle and i was hoping that it will still be up for sale . I have been searching for what you have for sale for a long time because of my sons birthday coming up soon. If it is, i will like to know what your last price is and also i will also like to have a detailed and up-to date description on the present condition of the car and also i will like you to forward any available pictures to me in your reply. I will also like to know where you are located presently. I am presently based in the U.K. My personal email address is shane.mullin_01@graffiti.net. I am also located in Dublin 2, Ireland I hope to read from you soonest,
cheerio,

Shane Mullin... Please notice 2 different addresses "shane" <shane_mullin01@yahoo.com>

Hi, i will like to purchase for this your XXXXX and the pix via mail, I want it shipped to cotonuo in south africa,I'll arrange for the shipping myself.Hope payment by a cashier's check will be ok.If this is alright with you, do get back to me immediately so I can arrange for the payment. I await to hear from your response. Thanks.

Bob, Marcos or Denny Denis (depends what day it is) Always same address though; bob007@dublin.com

GOOD DAY I A WEST AFRICA DEALER.I WILL LIKE TO BUY YOUR (car) PLEASE GIVE ME ADEQUATE INFORMATION REGARDING ITS CONDITION AND HOW MUCH DO WISH TO OFFER LAST,HOPE IT WILL NOT BE HECTIC CHANGINGITS OWNERSHIP.PLEASE LET ME HEAR FROM YOU. BEST REGARD .
Mark Owen

Wasn’t he the bloke in Take That?

"owen" <owen_plaza@yahoo.co.uk>

Hello there, i got ur contact through ur website and am highly interested in buying your XXXX } from you ,i have seen the price of it and is ok bye me. i am dealer in {HOLLAND} and i will be responsible for the shipment without giving you any strees and i will like this transaction to be fast.so about payment i have prepare a {CASHIER'S CHECK }for you in usa fund ,so pls email me back so that we can conclude about it. and i will like you to feed me out of this i.e ur personell phone num and ur adress and ur email so that i can forward it to my client in {NEWYORK} (USA),coz he is willing to send you check ASAP....... pls reply back REGARDS MRS ROSE ANN --------- End Forwarded Message ---------
mrsrose_ann@yahoo.com

hi, pls u pls give more information on the car . hope to hear from you soon. mariam. --------- End Forwarded Message ---------
mariam terry terry_moses2002@yahoo.com

This is the reply I got after trying to correspond with him;

I will be out of the office starting 21-Mar-2003 and will not return until
31-Dec-2003.

Dear All,
Please note I am no longer at Consumer North Africa, please forward your correspondence to Kamal Ubaysi
kamal.x.ubaysi@gsk.com Tel: 0208 047 4742

Glaxo Smith Kline – impressive!

Anonymous

07-28-2003, 09:50 PM

I recently received the following mails:

I am a Automobile,Bike and Boats dealer from Africa.With clients all
overAfrica .I have offices in most Africa Cities.I am intrested in your
Automobile and would want to know the firm price and mode of payment.In
respect of shipping i have a reputable Shipping company with offices in the
U.K that takes care of my shipping. Awaiting your urgent response.
Thanks,
Ayo.

I then received a further mail:

Thanks for the mail,i am o.k with your price and Inrespect of payment i
have a client in the U.k who is owing me £12,000.All i need to do
to
make payment easier and faster is to instruct him to procure a banker
draft
and mail it to you on the address and name you want on the darft and
you
know that a draft is cashed easily.But i would want to know if i can
trust
you to send my balance to me via western union money transfer after the
money must have been cashed in your bank to enable me prepay the
shipping
company here so that they can instruct their office in the U.K to come
and
pick the car from your location.pls mail me asap to enable me arrange
payment .
Thanks,
Ayo.

I though this too good to be true and had a good look around on the web. It was actualy quite difficult to find anything similar, but thank God i did, i definitly wont be falling for this.

Anonymous

07-29-2003, 10:59 AM

I got caught out :cry: It was the exact email that you have above!

I now owe my bank £4500. I have no way now of obtaining the money and the bank have frozen my accounts and threatening to put me into an unauthorised overdraft for which I will pay daily charges.

I can't believe this has happened it has ruined me

I have contacted the Financial Ombudsman but they tell me the bank is perfectly within its rights to call in the debt.

If you know of any info that may assisst me please contact me at sales@gtinter.com

Thanks Adam

Anonymous

08-13-2003, 11:54 AM

I am being contacted by a Kevin Spain of PrettyPet@hotmail8008.com. He has offered me similar terms. Cheque to be given to me upon his shipper collecting the car. For some reason I have to send him a balance of monies once car has been received. I am selling my car for £4,800 - offered it to him for £4,650 and he has agreed to pay £5,700!!! Spelling in email crap, very bad grammar and english and therefor took it upon myself to email him back to tell him that I knew of his scam and was on to him.

Hopefully I won't hear from him again! I only posted my advert on 12th Aug - within 5 mins I got his reply so do take care everyone as they are out there!!!

CJS

Anonymous

08-26-2003, 01:26 AM

WATCH out, they are still at it! :evil:

Anonymous

08-26-2003, 01:39 AM

:evil: What ever you do, make sure you do not send your email address to anyone, follow the rules of the ad site. We got a reply to our ad and followed the ad site recommendations. On the reply, I stupidly gave them contact phone numbers. The reply was from ashleyox2000@yahoo.co.uk
and they called us on our mobile with an internet call from AT&T. They offered $10,000 for a $4500 car with instructions to send money to an agent just like the other messages above. Dont be stupid like I was. I spammed the email, but would not have had the scam if I would follow the ad site instructions. Thanks to this site, I knew to be aware of the scam, Thank you!

imported_admin

08-27-2003, 05:40 AM

me too info,

Glad I was able to help! I may add this to the message I send out with the ads.

Iain
www.cheap-finance.co.uk

Anonymous

08-29-2003, 11:12 AM

They have also attempted to buy my Lotus using the same ploy, why can't all these web sites have a brief description of the scam as a header, people would then be more wary of these illiterate buffoons, at least it would make them stop and think before handing over any money.

imported_admin

08-29-2003, 01:49 PM

Thanks steve - I try on the reply form I mention we are on to them ... Will look at making it more prominent.

www.homesonsale.co.uk
sell your house without an agent!

Anonymous

09-08-2003, 12:53 PM

Same scam still going on - now MarkJohn1935@yahoo.co.uk, and reportedly being purchased in the Netherlands and just asking for bank details - but sounds very similar. Notes seem to be improving (slightly) in their English :

Dear Sir,

I run a procurement outfit in Europe,so I do a lot of travelling,I will be
coming to the United Kingdom but that will be later on.I am always very
busy as my schedule is very tight so I will like you to exercise some
patience with me as regards this transaction.I have a client in Holland
interested in your (89 (G) VW Corrado 16v )for( 3000pounds ).He will be
handling ******** and all other details.If you are okay with the mode of
payment,provide your banking details,so that I can instruct my client to
send the funds via wire transfer to your account.Details such as:

1)NAME AND ADDRESS OF BANK.
2)ROUTING NUMBER.
3)ACCOUNT NUMBER.
4)NAME OF BENEFICIARY OR ACCOUNT HOLDER.
5)BANK PHONE NUMBER.
6)PERSONAL PHONE NUMBER

Let me know as soon as possible,so that I can get in touch with my client

Thanks.

Mark.

Is there nothing to do to teach these bastards a lesson?

Anonymous

09-11-2003, 11:42 AM

karlscar@hotmail.com Home | My MSN | Hotmail | Search | Shopping | Money | People & Chat | Cars

Search the Web

Home Inbox Compose Contacts Options Help

Calendar
Hotmail Services
Free Newsletters
MSN Featured Offers
Find Message
Directories

Worth a click...

Stay safe whilst online
How to ask for a pay rise
Frankfurt Motor Show
Check the lottery results
10 car insurance secrets
Far East & Oz from £451
Win amazing prizes
Latest DVDs for £5!
Fast, hassle free loans
Virgin Card - apply now

karlscar@hotmail.com Free Newsletters | MSN Featured Offers | Find Message

Save Address(es) Block Previous Next | Close

From :
Richard Winston <maxiautos001@yahoo.co.uk>

To :
karl tot <karlscar@hotmail.com>

Subject :
Re: Hatchback Peugeot grd diesel/PAYMENT

Date :
Thu, 11 Sep 2003 12:03:42 +0100 (BST)

Reply Reply All Forward Delete Put in Folder...InboxSent MessagesDraftsTrash Can205audi Printer Friendly Version

I'm paying and that's after you must have sent the excess on the cheque.
Thank you.

karl tot <karlscar@hotmail.com> wrote:

who is payingme or u?

>From: Richard Winston
>To: karl tot
>Subject: Re: Hatchback Peugeot grd diesel/PAYMENT
>Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:49:00 +0100 (BST)
>
>Hi Karl,
>My shipper can only pick the car for shipping only when they are paid.
>Thank you
>
>karl tot wrote:
>
>ok thanks when will the car be picked up and who is paying the shiping??
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Richard Winston
> >To: karl tot
> >Subject: Re: Hatchback Peugeot grd diesel/PAYMENT
> >Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:46:49 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >Hi Karl,
> >I'll send you the cheque today and it should be to you in less than 9 days.
> >Thank you.
> >
> >karl tot wrote:
> >
> >
> >u send that 1 to me and i will send 4285 £ back to u i need your adress to send to u r paying shiping your end?
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Richard Winston
> > >To: karl tot
> > >Subject: Re: Hatchback Peugeot grd diesel/PAYMENT
> > >Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:35:18 +0100 (BST)
> > >
> > >Hi Karl,
> > >I got a cheque of Euro=7,500 issued in your name from my client and i'll like to know from you if i should send it or not. Please do some internet convertion at www.xe.com so as to know the amount you'll be sending to me but confirm if i should send the Euro cheque.
> > >Thank you.
> > >
> > >karl tot wrote:
> > >
> > >r u still having the car??????????
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Richard Winston
> > > >To: karl tot
> > > >Subject: Re: Hatchback Peugeot grd diesel/PAYMENT
> > > >Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 11:54:32 +0100 (BST)
> > > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >Thanks for the mail. I'm ok with your price and Inrespect of payment i have a client in UK who is owing me GBP5,000. All i need to do to make payment easier and faster is to instruct him to issue the cheque and mail to me and i'll personally mail it to you on the address and name you want on the cheque and you know that you can cashed easily. But i would want to know if i can trust you to send my balance to me via western union money transfer to enable me prepay the shipping company here so that they can instruct their office in the UK to come and pick the car from your location.
> > > >Please mail me asap to enable me arrange payment .
> > > >Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >karl tot wrote:
> > > >hi £1000 pounds is the price
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Richard Winston
> > > > >To: karlscar@hotmail.com
> > > > >Subject: Hatchback Peugeot grd diesel
> > > > >Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:35:27 +0100 (BST)
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi,
> > > > >I am a used car trader from Africa with clients all over Africa .I have
> > > > >offices in most African Cities. I am interested in your car and would want to know the firm price and mode of payment. In respect of shipping, i have a reputable Shipping company with offices in the UK that takes care of my shipping.
> > > > >Awaiting your urgent response.
> > > > >Thanks.
> > > > >Richard Winston
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >---------------------------------
> > > > >Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >---------------------------------
> > > >Get a free connection, half-price modem and one month FREE, when you sign up for BT Broadband today!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >---------------------------------
> > > >Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >---------------------------------
> > >Have more fun with your mobile - add polyphonic ringtones, java games, celebrity voicemails and loads more! Click here for phone fun.
> > >
> > >---------------------------------
> > >Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger
> >
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >Get your hands on designer bargains for less - click here.
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Download MSN Messenger V6 today - it's fun, fast and FREE!
>
>---------------------------------
>Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo!Messenger

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Start downloading music from 62p per track with the MSN Music Club.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger

Reply Reply All Forward Delete Put in Folder...InboxSent MessagesDraftsTrash Can205audi Previous Next | Close

MSN - More Useful Everyday
Home | My MSN | Hotmail | Search | Shopping | Money | People & Chat | Cars

© 2003 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. TERMS OF USE TRUSTe Approved Privacy Statement

Anonymous

09-11-2003, 11:50 AM

you're just about to be scammed!
Do not send this guy a penny!
Tell him the deal is off, and any cheque you receive will be handed to the police for investigation - including fingerprint and other forensic tests!

lorracash

09-20-2003, 07:25 AM

it's me again lorracash, and guess what, I've had two more of these scam emails, is there no one out there to stop these twits, or do we have to put up with their awful or is that hopeful intention to get money out of us with these scams, the recent one I've had is from a so called Bishop, who has a 'Bishop' here in England willing to collect the item advertised. There has to be someone out there with a good idea to get back at these idiots, or shall we invite all these people over and have a good old punch up once and for all.

any ideas will be welcome

lorracash

Anonymous

09-22-2003, 05:37 PM

I placed an ad on craigslist and was emailed backby a guy from Holland. I told him everything about my car, its flaws and its condition. He seemed interested and wrote me this email, I don't know what to make of it, should I continue the transaction or not? I have dealt with selling overseas.

Email to Blueorbital:

Thanks for the info,i think im satisfied.
Like i said earlier i am based in the netherland(holland).there
won't be any probs about the shipment,after payment ,the pick up will be made at your place.
i will make arrangements with the prepaid shipping company.
As regards payment,this is what i am going to do;
I have a client in the US who is owing me US$8,850, i
would instruct him to make out a money order/certified
check to you in that amount and as soon as it clears
your bank. you can now deduct your money from it and send me my
balance,i will
using use part of the money to pay for the shipping and other
expenses .you will
then send my balance by via western union money transfer.Although the
value of the check is more than the asking price but i think i should be able to trust you with my balance.
The reason why i am doing this is that it would take
a check sent from over here 21days to clear
over there,whereas a check sent from the US would
clear tops within 48hrs.
So i would like you to deduct the western union
charges from my balance.So if my terms are acceptable
to you,i would like you to give me your full
name,address and phone number so that i can instruct
my client to make out the check to you.
Pls get back to me as soon as you get this mail so
that we can round things up in a timely fashion..i will be trusting
you in
this business transaction.
Thanks ,
regards

What do you guys think? Pls send me an email at Blueorbital83@yahoo.com or message me via AIM: blueorbital83, Thanks.

Anonymous

09-22-2003, 05:43 PM

If it wasn't for this site I might have fell for it, because its too good to be true.

imported_admin

09-23-2003, 07:37 AM

Blueorbital,

Glad we were able to save you from these parasites!

Iain
Cheap UK loans >>>www.cheaper-loan.co.uk

Anonymous

09-24-2003, 12:23 AM

:oops: I thought as soon as I got the email that it was suspicious and as soon as I heard about the over amount and having to wire money I knew it was bs, does anybody think that if I say I am going along with it and get the adress to mail it t o the police could do anything ?

Anonymous

09-26-2003, 10:24 AM

I would advise you to just stay away from them. You don't want to get involved, beleive me.
Most of these West African countries use left wheel drives anyway. What they would want to do with UK cars beats me. They don't want the car, they are after your money.
I'm a Nigerian, but seeing these disgusting and pathetic mails almost makes you ashamed to be called one

Anonymous

09-26-2003, 09:38 PM

twiggy1

You are right it is the money they are after! It is sad that these individuals spoil things for the honest people living out there. Your point about the fact they drive left hand drive is spot on, need to add this to the warning.

Iain
www.cheap-finance.co.uk

Anonymous

09-30-2003, 08:16 PM

Hi There,
My name is Jack Apon from Holland.
When searching the internet for a Morris Traveller i found your site.
When i read these scam stories it makes you sick, but to advise not to deal with people outside UK isn't fair i think.
Like i said looking for a traveller and there are not many around in Holland so i have to look in the UK.
And i want to assure you if i would find the car i like to buy i would take a plane or ferrie and collect the car myself and pay for it cash.
I just thought i let you know.
All the best and be carefull out there
Regards
Jack

Anonymous

09-30-2003, 08:17 PM

Sorry forgot my e-mail address :

jackdapon2@tiscali.nl

Anonymous

10-04-2003, 12:05 AM

Is anyine thinking what I'm thinking? :roll:

Anonymous

10-15-2003, 01:33 AM

I just agreed to ship my car to england for somebody in Trinadad. Of course, I still have my car and no check has arrived. I emailed him telling him that I would let his shipper pick it up after my bank's 30 day non-negotiable check clearing period has passed with his check. Probably wont hear back.

Anonymous

10-15-2003, 03:09 AM

Just to let you guys know, it seems that the scam does not only involve cars. I just sold a laptop on ebay and got three suspicious emails from people in foreign countries about it (keep in mind the starting bid was $700, and the buy-it-now price was $1000).

Question from: l0l_l0lu
Title of item: Compaq Presario 1500 - 2.0 GHz, 480 MB, 30 GB

-----------------------------

Hi, Dear ebay seller, I'm currently looking for a present for my friend who lives in Ukraine. I really enjoy your unit and I'm ready to bid on it but there are several questions to be answered before that. Unfortunately his address is unconfirmed with my paypal account so I would like to inquire if you could ship to him directly to Ukraine. Will that be ok if the shipping address will be mine (confirmed) when I send paypal payment but you will ship to him to Ukraine directly? Please respond asap so that we will have a great deal! Have a nice day!!!

Question from: tukang05
Title of item: Compaq Presario 1500 - 2.0 GHz, 480 MB, 30 GB

---------------------------------

Hi, I'm From Indonesia. can you ship to Indonesia?
i really buy your item. i'll pay for shipping. i want pay your item offer $1550(goods) + 200.00 (shipping)FedEx only. payment with my credit card directly ( i only payment with my credit card directly)and i hope you can charge my card for payment my order.if you can, give me total cost goods + shipping. and i will give you my card details.email me back soon.
Thank you

From: "incarnus" <incarnus_2000@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 12:51 PM
Subject: Compaq Presario #3434832900

Hi, I got a business partner in Ukraine and I
want to make a present for him. I like your item and
can pay immediately via PayPal having won it. Could
you please ship to him directly if I send the
payment from my PayPal account? The problem is the
address is unconfirmed with PayPal. Just let me know
if we could work this out and I will be happy to put
my bid on.
Thanks.

Anonymous

10-21-2003, 05:36 PM

Just wanted to say thanks to you guys i had the same thing just happen to me and was about to sell them my car when i read this. thanks for saving me. :D

imported_admin

10-21-2003, 06:22 PM

No problem - just wish we could wipe these guys out once and for all.

Iain, site owner, creator, scam locator .... cleaner etc
www.cheaper-credit-card.co.uk

Just wanted to say thanks to you guys i had the same thing just happen to me and was about to sell them my car when i read this. thanks for saving me. :D

Anonymous

10-24-2003, 02:40 PM

Anonymous

10-24-2003, 02:43 PM

I was offered 10% over the asking price plus shipping to Pretoria RSA for a boring Mondeo - got suspicious and read your message.

Many thanks saved me a load of hassle

PK :D

Anonymous

10-24-2003, 11:13 PM

dear sir,
on behalf of my client i wish to purchase
the item above and i will like you to get me the
shipping quote to DUBAI,UNITED ARAB EMIRATES.so
payment can be arrange immediately.
thanks,
samuel,
tel:-+971504697988

Any way to scam these fags back?? Any ideas plz email me jmaiurro@hotmail.com

Anonymous

11-18-2003, 08:51 AM

Similar experience - badly composed e-mail looking to buy my Merc for shipping to a buyer in Canada; (like they don't have 2nd hand Mercs in Canada?).

After two or three follow up messages I challenged the sender about the "nonsense" of what he was proposing. The reply was abusive - confirming the scam element or at least unsavoury nature of the sender.

Whatever - thats the point you duck-out.

I contacted "The Yard" who said that each Police area has an e-crime unit and to send the e-mails to them.

Bottom line? If you smell something bad - there'll be something rotten at the end of it.

Keep well away from these B@£t@rd$

Anonymous

11-22-2003, 11:03 PM

I to have been caught out with this scam, but thankfully I refused to hand over any money until the cheque had cleared. I originally advertised my car on the auto4you web site and within hours had a reply wanting to buy it. I was unaware of the scam going on, anyway the person said his client would be sending the cheque and we were to pay the shipping company, after 2 weeks the cheque hadn't arrived so I told him I was offering it to someone else. They also wanted their client to send the cheque, but again after 2 weeks no cheque arrived. By now I was desperate to get the car sold so I offered it to a third person, but the first two e-mailed me saying they were desperate for the car, so I said that the first cheque to arrived would get the car. As it happened all 3 cheques arrived on the same day. As the last person I offered the car to was the quickest to get the cheque to me I said he could have the car. The other 2 asked if I could still cash the cheque and send the money by Western Union Money Transfer, being the sort of person who trusts people I said no problem. They kept e-mailing asking me to send them the cash, but I said I wouldn't send anything until the cheques had cleared, as it turned out these 2 cheques were stolen. As for the person who was buying the car, the funds cleared, but because of work commitments I couldn't send the money there and then so I said I would do it as soon as I got home the next day. When I phoned my bank to arrange the transfer I discovered that the funds had been withdrawn from my account the cheque had been stopped. I am ever so glad I hadn't got round to doing the transfer in the morning, and I certainly won't trust anyone wanting to send me a cheque cash only from now on.
The names/e-mail address were:
Wolfsam21@Myway.com
Valenta_bailey@yahoo.com
jimsimmon_inc@yahoo.co.uk

Jim Simmon also wanted me to transfer £1,000 to his grandfather Martins Collins, 128b Green Road, Victoria Garden City, Lagos, Nigeria, 23401. He claimed he had put a £1,000 deposit down with the shipping company and the confirmed that he had but I think they have been in on the scam as well they or at least he was Johson Olumid, 23/24 Marc Garden, Oba Akran Avenue, Lagos Nigeria, 23401 - e-mail shippinglink@india.com.

I certainly won't be fooled by this again, its cash or nothing.

imported_admin

11-23-2003, 07:21 PM

Hi dmddonaldson

Interesting post, I am glad you never lost money on this. Ithink the lesson learned is DO NOT TRUST ANYONE ONLINE!

Are you in the uk? If so how long was the cheque that cleared in your bank for? Just curious as I am wondering if you express clear a cheque and its given the ok, can it still be withdrawn by the person who sent the cheque, and if so after how long?

studioman

12-29-2003, 08:00 PM

I can smell these a mile off now. They all have a Trade mark when concocting these stories. Never get involved. If it seems too good to be true - it is!

They play on your sense of desperation and maybe 'greed' - more money than your car is worth??

I send emails back stating:-

1. what is your landline tel number?
2. what is your real address?
3. who is your local agent?
4. why are you wanting to buy a car you haven't even named?
5. why do all you scammers use the same words?
6. if you don't reply within 4 hours I'll send your details to the Fraud Office at Scotland Yard.

I've never had an honest reply yet.

Just ignore them or send details to the Fraud Office - who incidentally also NEVER reply!!!

ps - my uncle who was the Head of Security in my country has just deposited 60 million Euro's in the UK and I'd like to share it with all of you lovely people. All you have to do is..........................

Had you going then didn't I? No? Good you're learning. Sell locally or speak to a UK based geezer who wants to see your car first and is NOT eager to part with loads of money. Seller beware.

Anonymous

01-04-2004, 12:23 PM

heres the latest that i had

Anonymous

01-04-2004, 12:25 PM

heres the latest that i had

HELLO,
THANKS FOR THE PROMPT REPLY, GOD BLESS YOU {AMEN}I WILL INFORM A FRIEND OF MINE ,WHO I HELPLED
FOR SOME AMOUNTS OF MONEY IN UK , AND HE WILL BE
SENDING A CHEQUE FOR ( £1,770 ) IN WHICH YOU ARE TO DEDUCT
YOUR
MONEY , I MEAN ( £2,50 ) AND SEND THE REMAINING FUNDS
TO MY SHIPPER VIA ANY WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER IN
YOUR LOCATION, HE WILL BE LEAVING FOR YOUR LOCATION
FOR THE PICK UP IMMEDIATELY HE HAVE THE FUNDS IN CASH
AS THEIR COMPANY NORMALLY HAVE THEIR FULL FUNDS IN
CASH BEFORE ANY SHIPPING ARRANGEMENTS. SO I ENTRUST
YOU WITH THE EXCESS ON THE FUNDS ,TO BE SEND TO MY
SHIPPER AFTER THE CHEQUE HAS BEEN CASH AND YOU HAVE
DEDUCTED YOUR MONEY, SO I WILL LIKE YOU TO FORWARDS
YOUR FULL NAME AND ADDRESS TO ME SO I CAN FORWARD IT
TO MY FRIEND SO HE CAN ISSUE AND SEND A CHEQUE FOR THE
PAYMENTS TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. BECAUSE I BELIEVE
BUSINESS IS ALL ABOUT TRUST, AND BUSINESS ONLY
SUCCEEDS WHEN THE TWO PARTY INVOLVE PLAY WITH TRUST
HONESTY AND SINCERITY,SO I HOPE YOU ARE OK WITH ME.
I AWAITS YOUR TIMELY RESPONCE ALONG WITH YOUR FULL
INFORMATION.
REGARDS,
JONES

Hello

the car is still for sale at £150.00
the car is not running as no battery!!
I have never shipped anything anywhere so please advise if you are still interested
----- Original Message -----

HELLO,
I GOT TO SEE YOUR :
E Reg Special 2cv6 1988 Red
ADVERT ON NET SO I DECIDED TO
MAIL
YOU TO ASK IF THE AD IS STILL VALID AND IF IT,DON'T ESITATE TO MAIL ME
BACK
TO LET ME KNOW THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE SHIPPING AND PAYMENT I'M
LOCATED
IN WEST AFRICA.TELL ME YOUR LAST OFFER FOR IT,AND METHOD OF PAYMENT CASHIER
CHEQUE/COMPANY CHEQUE.
REGARDS
JONES

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Anonymous

01-24-2004, 05:22 PM

I recently received an email from a "Freddy Collins" who claimed to be in Wales. It sounded too good to be true, so I checked this forum. I appreciate the information those of you with similar experiences have provided.

Here is the message I received in response to my questions:

"Thanks for your mail. my client reside also in wales. she is interested and ready to make payment immediately. You the seller has no business with the shippment of the vehicle. All that is required of you is the acceptance of both parties terms of transaction.
"I have concluded with my client and he has instructed me to carry on with the transaction, he said that I should inform you that payment will get to you in a cashier's check of $15,000 which is a refund payment of a cancelled order earlier made by my client.

"Due to company policy this check has to be made out in this amount to you , because company policy only allows a refund payment on one cashier's check, so you are required to deduct cost of your car $8,500 when payment gets to you and refund balance $6,500 to my customer via western union money transfer or money gram transfer for him to be able to offset shipping charges.

"After payment has reached you and balance sent back to him, our agent will come for the pick up and taste drive, after which to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer, while title papers and other necessary documents will be sent by you via fedex courier to my customer.

"Please Confirm this and ! provide full name, address and phone number for check payment to be delivered to you via courier serivce.

Thank you.

Freddy"

Anonymous

02-02-2004, 10:54 PM

A guy from England offered to buy my car at asking price after deliberately asking my bottom dollar. I was kinda wondering what was up with that, but I didn't think twice. Here's his e-mail:

Hello,
I came across your ad on(www.thepartstrader.com)and will like to buy your(1994 Honda Civic DX Automatic ) you place for sale,so i will like you get back get to me with your bottom price and picture so that we can start business and you dont have to worry about shippping i have an international shipping agent that will ship it to me and i will want you to know that am located in ENGLAND.

Like to here from you soon,
Regards,
Scott. (scott_autos@myway.com)

Anonymous

02-02-2004, 10:57 PM

here's more of Scott Williams' e-mail to me about my car::
Hi Seth,

Thanks for your quick response. I am interested and
would be willing to buy it at that price for $4,500 I am located
in England and have an International shipping agent
that will come pick the 1994 Honda Civic DX Automatic up from your house and
ship to me.
I will arrange for payment by sending your full name
and address to my client in the States who is owing me
the amount of $7,500 to issue you a official check for
this amount. which is a refund for a cancelled order I
placed with him, and being a refund the amount can only
be written on a single check. I know it is more than
the 1994 Honda Civic DX Automatic price but after getting the official check,
I need you to cash it and deduct cost of the 1994 Honda Civic DX Automatic,
then do me a favour of wiring the remaining balance
to my International shipper via western union. You will
also deduct $200 for running around and for wiring back
the difference. After this is done, he will then pick
the 1994 Honda Civic DX Automatic up from your residence and ship to me.
So, confirm this and send your full name and address
including phone # for mailing the check payment to you
as soon as possible.

Waiting for your urgent reply,
Kind regards,
Scott.

Anonymous

02-04-2004, 08:58 AM

Hi,

Having got my Z3 advertised on several sites I have been bombarded with emails from SCAMMERS. Some sound extremely convincing and too good to be true. I have found the best way to deal with these people, especially if you are not sure whether or not the enquiry is genuine, is to put a note on the bottom of your reply email saying something along the lines of:

SCAMMERS BEWARE:
I will not accept company cheques or personal cheques that are in any other name but your own. Nor will I accept any amount greter than that of the agreed price of the car. I will not release the car until the agreed amount has been paid in full- cheques must clear!
You, the purchaser are responsible for ALL SHIPPING ARRANGEMENTS and for PAYMENT of shipping. I will not be responsible for the transferring of funds to any third party (SHIPPING AGENTS) this is your responsability.
If I have any reason to doubt that this sale is NOT GENUINE or is part of a SCAM I will not continue with the sale of (whatever you are selling). I will notify the police if I have reason to suspect that this is a SCAM.
Do not waste my time and I will not waste yours! :twisted:

People who are genuinely interested will reply back to you and those that are part of a scam will literaly disappear.

imported_admin

02-04-2004, 12:14 PM

Hi,

SCAMMERS BEWARE:
I will not accept company cheques or personal cheques that are in any other name but your own. Nor will I accept any amount greter than that of the agreed price of the car. I will not release the car until the agreed amount has been paid in full- cheques must clear!
You, the purchaser are responsible for ALL SHIPPING ARRANGEMENTS and for PAYMENT of shipping. I will not be responsible for the transferring of funds to any third party (SHIPPING AGENTS) this is your responsability.
If I have any reason to doubt that this sale is NOT GENUINE or is part of a SCAM I will not continue with the sale of (whatever you are selling). I will notify the police if I have reason to suspect that this is a SCAM.
Do not waste my time and I will not waste yours! :twisted:

Nice one will recommend this to those advertising!

Anonymous

03-13-2004, 04:27 PM

I think I almost got caught twice, in the last couple of weeks. Fortunately, I had read this first! The first was an email saying he was coming to the UK for a short visit and would spend £8000 on my car..more than the cost of my car at £5000. Asked if I had anymore like it. I told him that his 'visit' may be too short because I wouldn't let my car go unless funds were cleared. Didn't get any more emails. The other was a phone call from a guy called Kenneth Edwards. He had an 'african' accent and said he was coming from London (I live in Devon) to buy my car at the weekend, full price..he had never seen it and didnt ask anything about it. I told him the same, my car goes nowhere until funds are cleared. Didnt hear from him again. Thanks for putting out this info, or I may have been scammed! Allan.

Anonymous

03-20-2004, 02:55 PM

im Selling my car, I have it on autotrader.com

anywho, this guy keeps emailing me about IT , read these emails and tell em if u think this dude is trying to scam me?

email #1:

My client is very interested in your vehicle in the ad.and he is willing to pay $22,400
kindly get back to me if it is still available.thanks

email #2:

Stefan,

Thanks for the mail,kindly send some down loaded pictures of the car for my client's proper viewing asap so that we will talk on the terms of payment.Also state your last asking price for the vehicle.
Have a nice day.

email #3:

Thanks for the pixs,they have been forwarded to my
client for proper viewing and he is willing to pay $22,500 for your car.However, you have to give us
sometime to contact our client on phone, we have been
trying his line for sometime now i believe is switched
off, The amount in the check he deposited for the
order is bigger than what should be paid to you,
though it's meant for the total expenses which
includes the purchase , the pick up and the shipping
bills. so we want to know if we shall carry on with
that or if he will make arragement for another check
ASAP. he is presently in saudi arabia . just hang on ,
i will get back to you as soon as i conclude issues
with him.
Acknowledge and get back if suitable with you .
Thanks and Reamin Blessed,

email#4:

Stefan,

My client has finally accepted your price,he hopes the engine is
serviced and oil changed too .He cant wait to see the car parked in his
garage.
However,My client made out a certified cashiers check of ($30,000) before
he travelled to japan on a business trip,for a previous car and its
shipment charges etc,but it was unfortunately sold.The amount on the check
he deposited for the car is bigger than what should be paid to you
now, so the check is now meant for the total expenses which includes the
purchase of your car,the pick up of the car from its present location
and the shipping charges/other necessary shipping arrangements.
However he has instructed us to carry on with this transaction. So you're
required to deduct the cost of your car ($22,500) and send the balance
of ($7,500) to my client via western union money transfer to enable him
offsett shipping charges/arrangements.once the transaction is concluded,My
agent will be coming for the pick up of the car from its present
location, on an open vehicle and then drive to a pre paid shipper for
shipment,and also conclude other necessary shipping arrangements.so yo
u dont have to bother yourself about the pick up and shipping
arrangements,while title papers and other necessary documets will be sent by
you via fedex courier to my customer.
Please Confirm this and provide name,address and phone
number for check payment to be delivered to you via
fedex courier .

Thanks and Remain Blessed,

what the hell is this all about? i mean if he sends me a check and all that'll be sweet , but after reading the about all the fraud that goes on and fake cert checks im nervous.

Anonymous

03-29-2004, 07:44 PM

I too have had several enquiries from abroad. I thought at first all my Chrismases had come at once when I was offered the full asking price and he would send me the shipping cost as well. I was suspicious in a way so got it checked out by our Police Liaison officer, who confirmed it was a scam and how it worked. I attach the equiries I have had.

1. sent by a Mathin. T mac_teems001@yahoo.com
Hello,
I am very much intrested in buying the car and the price is okay by me for 2100pounds i'm ready to pay you with a certified cheque which will include the shippment cost and some other bills.And the Cheque will be 5000 pounds.When you do receive the payment you deduct the money of your car which you want to sell and send the remain balance to my shippers inorder for them to come to the state for the picking up.if you are okay with the arrangement i will like you to send me your:
Name:...........which the cheque is to be written
Address:..........where the cheque is to be send to
Mobile phone #:.......for easier communication
When you send me the following I will issue you the cheque.And as soon as possible you do receive the cheque contact me via e-mail immediately inorder for further information.Hope to hear from you very soon.
Regards.

2. My reply
Thank you for your e-mail, though I am curious of your intentions.
Why would you want to send me £5,000? I would prefer just the cost of the car, which is £2,195.
Where is the car being shipped to?

Please supply your telephone number so that we can discuss the arrangements. I am obviously dubious of dealing with overseas, though I have not ruled it out.
Can you tell me where you saw the advert as it is listed in many places?

Thank You

3. from a Dr. Green dr_jamesgreen@fastermail.com
Hello,
My name is Dr.James Green,an American medical
surgeon,am interested in your Volvo 850 GLT 2.0 20v 1993,which you have for sale i will like you to tell me the last price of it and send me the pics via-email to me.A creditor-client of mine in the United Kingdom his owing me some money and method of payment will be by credit card orcheque if you are ok with this transaction kindly get back to me
Asap,looking
forward to read from you.Thanks
Best Regards
Dr.James Green
Thanks

4. From a oluwaseyi abbey <abbey4u_2000@hotmail.com>
GOOD DAY,
I AM ENQUIRY ABOUT YOUR SAID CAR IF IT STILL FOR SALE CUS I AM INERESTED
IN BUYING IT, SO LET ME KNOW THE PRESENT CONDITION OF THE CAR AND LEAST
OFFER AND ALSO THE PICTURE OF IT SO THAT THE PAYMENT CAN BE MADE TO YOU IN
CASHIER CHECK, AND IF THIS IS OKAY BY YOU GET BACK TO ME ASAP, HOPE TO HEAR
FROM YOU SOON,
THANKS.
MY REGARD TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, BETTER DAY AHEAD.
ABBEY...

5. My reply
Please note. Before I do any foreign dealings I have passed all your e-mails
to our investigations bureau to verify your I.D and bona fide application.
The agency, which has investigators across the world should be contact with
you personally to verify your intentions,
Regards

6. From Bill Jones - jones_ventures@movemail.com
I'm interested to purchase your advert 850 GLT 2.0 20v 2000cc .the price £2195 is okay with me,i will like to know the present condition
of the car and send me pix via email if available
and if the payment can be made with a certified cashire's cheque.If this okay with you do get back to me with your full names,telephone number and contact address for the cheque
to be issue out to you asap.
wait to read from you today.
Regards
Bill

STRANGELY, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYMORE FROM THEM

Beware!!! Never sell overseas unless 100% sure.

Anonymous

04-22-2004, 02:23 PM

Anonymous

05-27-2004, 03:44 AM

:evil:

From:"gorge smith" <gorgimania01@outgun.com>
GOODDAY SELLER,
How are you and your Family,Hope you are feeling fine,Due to your
Advert on your car which you have for sale at the sum of ($7000)
and i will like to inform you that am interested in it and My shipper
will come
to inspect and test,drive the car when he comes to pick it up after
payment. Can i have the Name that will be writtten on the check,a
residential address (NOT A P O BOX ADD) where the check will be
mailed to and also your fone #.And i will like to make you understand
that
there is this client of mine who is owing me some money and he is
ready to cut a cashier's check of the amount he owns me ($15000),i
will instruct him to issue it out to you,and am counting and trusting
you to wire back the excess funds of ($8000) via money gram transfer
as soon as you get the check cleared to my shipper pls.After the
balance has been wired to my shipper, he will come to your
destination to pick up the car and sign the necessary document on my
behalf and i will like you to get back to me as soon as possible.

And : from "rubin savage" <talk2bluewave@yahoo.co.uk>
Hi,
I am a car dealer based in West Africa.I am intrested in buying your car .I would want to know the firm price and the mode of payment.As for shipping i have a reputable shipper who handles my shipping.I shall appreciate an urgent response.
Thank you and God bless you.
Rubin.
2348056636112

Anonymous

05-31-2004, 06:43 AM

Hey guys/gals..I got nailed to. I'm selling a 2 place ultralight airplane. I put it on an online classifieds site for aircraft, and in only a few days emails were pouring in from people who stated being from all over the world. I narrowed it to one person, who then said he is sending a check for $22,100 (twice what I'm asking) and to forward the remaining amount to his shipper. I stumbled upon some of these sites, and now am a bit ticked. I'm glad ya'll have helped me. I wish we could send some crazy american marines over there and bomb there little scam hide out...!!!

imported_admin

06-03-2004, 09:07 AM

Did you actually lose your money? Let me know via
http://www.usedcarmart.co.uk/index.php?page=account
I know people that may be able to assist :wink:

Hey guys/gals..I got nailed to. I'm selling a 2 place ultralight airplane. I put it on an online classifieds site for aircraft, and in only a few days emails were pouring in from people who stated being from all over the world. I narrowed it to one person, who then said he is sending a check for $22,100 (twice what I'm asking) and to forward the remaining amount to his shipper. I stumbled upon some of these sites, and now am a bit ticked. I'm glad ya'll have helped me. I wish we could send some crazy american marines over there and bomb there little scam hide out...!!!

Anonymous

06-29-2004, 07:10 PM

Although not a car, a posted a drum set for sale online and received e-mails from several people, but I settled on Tolu Williams...He instructed that his client in the US owed him 5,000 and would send me a cashiers check from Bank of America for 5,500 and I would wire him the balance and he would negotiate with his shipper. He later e-mailed and said his client sent him the check to avoid problems with the mail system??? I received the check today and Bank of America caught it before handing over the dough. Upon closer inspection, the hand writing on the check (supposedly from his client in the US) and his writing on the envelope from Europe are exactly the same. I'm glad I didn't just go in 5 grand.

Is there anything that can be done about this?

The email he was using for this was equip_mart@yahoo.com

I also saw in a previous post that Tolu Williams had corresponded with someone else with the e-mail transbike_ltd@yahoo.com (i think thats right).

Anonymous

07-07-2004, 05:05 AM

Below is e-mail info of scammer, please be careful, do not reply to them: :x
--------------------------------------------------
Firstly,we will like to introduce our compay PARTLINK WEST AFRICA LTD. which was located at NO1,OGUNLANA STREET KETU,LAGOS,NIGERIA,affiliated with many branches in Nigeria and other part of west africa countrie,established in the year of 1979.as one of the leading importer , exporter, commission agent and broker of Computer,Laptop,Camcorder,Mobile Phone and accessories here Nigeria.We do import & Export business to our other branches in west
africa countries with annual turn over exceeding of$7,500,000 with a good distributive outlets and our devoted staff added great imput to our existence on the trade. and we have numerous customer that we do represent abroad by forwarding their other request to any reliable overseas supplier.
Nevertheless,we would be much obliged if you accept our first order with your firm.

Kindly give us the unit price for the below items:---

Please let us know the price of this booked items immediately we recieve your price by e-mail we shall proceed. Remember to let your price to be moderate so that we can purchase from you.We shall therefore be grateful if you will give the matter
your immediate and careful attention and If you have any question or any information feel free call us via Telephone #2348056636112,234-8023298873

we await your urgent reply by email soon.
Regards

David Gowin

Anonymous

07-13-2004, 03:41 PM

Within a day of posting my car to CarsDirect.com and BargainNews.com, I received "the bait." Follow the exchange below, if you really need to read ANOTHER same-old same-old.

I'd heard of similar scams, but I was hoping this one was legit. Of course it sounded too good to be true, but I figured I'd play along until it got too dodgey.

And now it has.

I entered 'used car buyer scam money gram' into Google and found your site immediately, thank God. I will not be taking any money orders THIS week, gratefully.

HOWEVER: after reading through this discussion, I have yet to see any advice on how to catch these scammers. I am also somewhat peeved that CarsDirect has no warning in their Help section about this type of scam. Is there anything to be done? I'm thinking about enlisting my state's Attorney General and proposing to help participate in a sting operation.

Good luck to all; thank you for your vigilance.
N

Greetings..

I am Pita Makh the Ddirector of Pita Motors.Plot A 111 Earlsfort Terrace, Dublin 2, Ireland.

We specialise in purchase of auto machines for customers here in Europe and Asia, we get paid in commission after payment has been confirmed by the seller to the buyer.

At present we have a customer interested in purchasing your ( Vehicle ) for the sum of ($12,250 usd) and we will arrange for the pick up of the Vehicle once payment is confirmed cleared by you.

Please acknowledge the offer and we will inform the buyer of your confirmation of acceptance to sell and have the funds remitted to you as soon as possible.

(PLEASE ATTACH ATLEAST TWO MORE RECENT PICS SO THAT WE CAN FORWARD IT TO MY CLIENT( THE BUYER FOR EVALUATION).

ATTN:
ANY ACCIDENT HISTORY AND ARE YOU THE FIRST OWNER OF THE VEHICLE.

NOTE:

MY CLIENT TAKES CARE OF MY COMMISSION,SHIPPING AND HANDLING BILLS.

Regards.

Pita Makh

I couldn't find any Pita Motors in Dublin over the net, but it sounded OK so far... I jacked the price up a little to see if that would deter them.

Greetings Pita,

If I may ask, where did you find the listing for my Subaru? I have six recent pictures on CarsDirect.com, and one on BargainNews.com. Attached are two more recent pictures; I hope they will suffice. If your client requires any more, I will be happy to supply.

Accident history:
...
Owner history:
...

Due to the high level of interest in my vehicle, and because Pita Motors represents an international order (with attendant levels of paperwork), I have raised my asking price to 12,750 USD. To purchase the car, I will need one half of the amount up front, to pay off the lienholder and regain the title. As soon as I have the title in hand (approx. two weeks) I will request the second half of the amount. When that amount clears, I will release the car and title to your agent here in the States, or deliver to either New York, Boston, or some point in between.

These are my terms. I look forward to hearing from you. In particular, I am open to ideas on how to exchange payments in a verifiable manner.

Sincerely,

Nik

GREETINGS...

THANKS FOR YOUR MAIL AND UPDATE.THE PICS ARE WONDERFUL AND I HAVE FOWARDED THEM TO MY CLIENT FOR EVALUATION.

I WILL GET BACK TO YOU AS SOON AS I FINISH DISCUSSING WITH MY CLIENT.

MY CLIENT TAKES CARE OF MY COMMISSION,SHIPPING AND HANDLING BILLS.

REGARDS.

PITA

OK, sounds good. But I don't want to wait by the phone for too long...

Pita,

Please discuss with your client; however, if I do not hear from you by end-of-business EST Wednesday, I will consider your interest closed. As I said, I have other buyers on the line.

Have a good evening, and God bless the Irish.

Sincerely,

Nik Charov

Greetings..Nik

I am very happy to tell you that we have concluded with our client and he has instructed me to carry on with the transaction .He proposed this payment method. He said that I should inform you that the payment will get to you in a cashier check of ($19,640) which is a refund payment of a cancelled order earlier made by my client.

Due to company policy, this check has to be made out in this amount to you, because company policy only allows a refund payment on one cashier check, so you are required to deduct cost of your VEHICLE [($12,750 usd. )] when the payment gets to you and refund balance [ $6,890 usd] to my customer's shipping agent at CANADA VIA INTERNATIONAL MONEY GRAM TRANSFER, for the shipping agent to be able to offset shipping charges.

After payment has reached you and balance sent back to his shipping agent - the shipper will contact the PICKUP AGENT who will come for the pickup of the vehicle and drive straight to the shipper to be shipped to my customer, while title papers and other necessary documents will be sent by you via FedEx courier to my customer.

ATTENTION: MY CLIENT INSTRUCTED THAT THE PICKUP AGENT WILL BE COMING OVER TO YOUR AREA OF LOCATION WITH SOME ONE WHO IS GOING TO TEST DRIVE THE VEHICLE AND CHECK THE RECENT CONDITION OF THE VEHICLE.THAT YOUR ARE TO HELP THEM WHEN THEY ARRIVE..

NOTE: YOU ARE EXPECTED TO DEDUCT THE TRANSFER CHARGES FROM THE REMAINING BALANCE YOU ARE TO SEND TO THE SHIPPER.

Pls confirm this whole arrangement and provide your payment information so that payment will be delivered to you via FedEx courier immediately..

PAYMENT INFORMATION:

(1).LEGAL NAME ( IN FULL)

(2).ADDRESS ..

(3) PHONE NUMBER..

Regards.

PITA MAKH

I'M RICH! But maybe I should do a little research first... I mean, who sends MORE than the price of the car, for no reason? Hmmmm.

Thank you, usedcarmart.co.uk Forum.

I will be preparing my final reply to "Pita" shortly, as soon as I hear from the authorities about an appropriate next step.

Anonymous

07-15-2004, 07:20 PM

I have been dealing with a guy called Jerry Robinson (jerryrobinsonco@yahoo.com) who said that he's based in holland but has a clienrt in the uk who wants to buy my car and ship it to Germany. He offered me £4500 even though my car was only £2700 on ebay and that I would need to wire transfer £1800 after receiving the cheque. I stupidly agreed to the price, gave him my address & phone number and am waiting now for the cheque to arrive. I was on the phone explaining everything to my parents back home and luckily my sister overheard the conversation and had seen something on tv about the scam. I then found this site and boy am I glad she overheard!!

I presume that the cheque will arrive any day now but what do I do with it? Should I just not pay it in or should I take it to the police. I have already emailed him back to say that I know about the scam. It makes me so mad that people can do this - there will be so many that weren't as lucky as the people on this forum.

I hope something is done and done quickly! :evil:

Anonymous

07-19-2004, 07:50 PM

Well, I've got something to add to all of this. I put my motorcycle on e-bay and got a response from none other than...Nigeria.
This guy said that he was wanting to buy it for a client of his and that he had been in the used car business for 13 years....blah...blah...blah.
He said that he would send a $25,000 cashier's check, but needed me to wire $500 immediately to his "shipper". Funny though, his wiring information for the "shipper" had his name on it. I e-mailed him back and asked him why I was sending him $500 when I am the seller...and why is he sending me $5,000 for shipping....where exactly is this shipping company...the US or Africa??? It's been a while and I haven't heard anything back...what a shock. This really infuriates me that these "people" can do this.

paulmon

02-25-2005, 12:38 PM

Got this response to my advert on 911uk.com

Hello,

I forwarded the pictures to my client for evaluation and confirmation.Due to time constraint on the fact that we are running short of time , i am delighted to tell you that my client has commended your 1997 PORSCHE and he has instructed me to carry on with this transaction, he also instructed me to inform you that payment will get to you in a Cheque of £40,200 . Due to company policy this check has to be made out in this amount to you ,because company policy only allows a payment on one cheque. So you are required to deduct the cost of your PORSCHE £34,500 when payment gets to you and refund balance £5700. euro to the shipper for him to be able to offset shipping & tax charges, and other cosmetic repair costs. After payment has reached you and balance sent to shipper, the shipper's agent will come for inspection, pick up (of the 1997 PORSCHE & signing of title papers), some cosmetic touches and drive to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer. Confirm this and forward your Names, Address and Phone number for payment to be made to you as soon as possible.

Best regards to you and your family.

To which my response was

James,

Before we proceed I feel there are some important points about the car that I should inform you about.
This car was a one off special order and was made to my specific requirements. In addition to the standard high specification found on the Porsche Carrera C4S it has had the following performance components fitted at the factory:

Extra large knocking big ends fitted
Mega tapping valves
Super cracked exhaust manifold
Hi Performance
HKS low compression water to oil intercooler via a crack device
Rumble wheel bearings fitted all round
Fooked race spec. brake pads and discs
low profile flat tyres
one off borked little end bearings
unique lacquer peeled paint
6 speed manual gearbox with automatic neutral jumping
super worn clutch and worn lighter flywheel
cross drilled & cracked discs all round
super clear windows with hi-visibility transparent glass

Also as one of the founding members of the Porsche Racing International Club Krew I couldn't possibly let the car go to a non member. So before we can proceed I will need some details from your client so I can process their membership immediately. The details I require are:

Name of Owner
Email Address
Also for identification purposes I will need a photograph sent through email with the client holding a card or piece of paper with the word BOON written on it. This part is vital to ensure a smooth transaction.

As soon as I receive membership information I will take the car off the market and we can hopefully proceed with the sale.

Kind Regards
Paul Monaghan

mickwombat

03-19-2005, 06:56 PM

Just a thought, but maybe anyone who is approached by the scammers could tell them that they have a friend in Nigeria, Sth. Afric etc who is flying back in one weeks time and would be happy to come and collect the cheque on your behalf. If they give an address, this could be passed on to police etc. Worth a try don't you think???? ;)

bob

03-26-2005, 09:07 PM

What on earth!! its because of this forum im not in a serious hole. Thanks alot. This is what "James Taylor" sent me. He had a feedback of a whole (0).

Hello,
Thanks so much for your fast response... The Cahiers Check/Money Orders that will be issued will include the money for the sales of your item + the shipping cost and my commission like i said in my earlier mail .I would like to restate clearly that this item will be shipped to Africa and I have a shipping agent who would take good care of this.

You are required to cash the drafts you will recieve and deduct the funds for the sales of your item and have the excess funds sent to the shipper via Western Union Money Transfer at one of their outlets around you in order to schedule the pick up of the item.

All neccesary transfer papers will be dully signed by the shipper on behalf of my client when the shipping agents comes for the pick up of the item.

I will be willing to entertain more of your questions that might arise, please provide your CONTACT NAME,ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER so that I can have it
forwarded to my client for immediate payment issuance.

Many Thanks

Cheers

So I had him entertain why he thought id fall for that?.

admin

03-27-2005, 10:02 AM

redlight

04-15-2005, 10:53 PM

This is the fourth one this last week.
I have contacted my client who need the Ford Scorpio Ultra .He said he will issue to you a CHEQUE of £5,000 after you send the following informations:

Full name..............

Address.....................

Phone number......................

You are to deduct £2,000 and forward the balance to the shipping company that will come for the pick-up from your destination.The balance for the shipping includes my COMMISSION AND SHIPPING.My client said he love to make use of the Ford Scorpio Ultra in a movie....Also i need your phone number get back to me asap........

His email address is:
Oli_in_Jam@yahoo.com.

Just in case anyone else gets approached by him

coobs85

05-06-2005, 02:15 PM

This just happened to me today and having looked up scams on the net I glad I did. This is what I was sent...

Hello,
I saw your vehicle on the internet, i am interested in purchasing it, but first i'd like to know the following things, if its diesel or petrol,and the mileage, and also if it has been involved in any accidents in the past, and other features notmentioned in the ad. In your mail, please get back to me with the recent picture and let me also know your last asking price you'll sell for.
Regards

......to which I replied with some of the car details.....

HELLO

Thanks for your mail, as for the price of £22,000 i find it quite reasonable, and i'll have my client to go for it, but since i wouldn't be able to come over myself, as i am tied down now with other negotiations, i'll have my client issue you a cheque for £26,000 this will cover the shipping expenses and my agents fee and his travelling expenses, to come over and pick up the car for shipping.I don't mind the cheque having to get cleared by the bank before we get the car, but i want to know if i can trust you on sending the remaining balance to my agent through Western union Money Transfer as soon as the cheque is cashed.To start with the procurement of the cheque, i'll need the following information from you: Your full address street,city/town,state,Country andand post code), your phone number and full name to be written on the cheque/draft. Thanks again and God Bless i will be looking forward to hearing from you soon.

Best Regards

What do you make oif this?
........Does everyone agree this is a scam?

By the way the address that sent the email was:
kate fox <kate_foxx2000@yahoo.co.uk>

MoonDust

07-18-2005, 02:34 PM

Hmmmm .......

Kelly Collins to me
Hide options Jun 18

From: Kelly Collins <kellco616@yahoo.co.uk>
To:
Date: Jun 18, 2005 10:03 AM
Subject: 2002 Ford Ka Style

Goodday ,

How are you doing today, I have accepted to pay the stipulated price immediately with a bankers draft , just that the draft, is going to be in an amount larger than the cost of the car.

Reason being that it is a refund payment to me and the Creditor issuing the check has the policy not to issue more than one check to a refund payment, which means that the check is going to carry the whole amount em-block for the sales and shipping of the car from your country to Ireland.

The check that will be sent to is £7,300 and you would have to deduct the cost of your car £3,750 from it immediately you cash it and send the balance £3,550 via wire transfer (MoneyGram) to offset the shipping charges. So, I am entrusting you to handle this funds with honesty, care and utmost confidentiality.

You are required to send Name, which should be on the check, the address where the check is going to be sent and your contact telephone numbers for fast communication. On receipt of this information, the check will be sent to you. After you send the balance, the shipper will be paid and they will come and pick up the car immediately.

Ask question where you are not cleared. I would be there to explain further. You can reach me via mail.

Looking forward to rounding up this transaction as soon as possible.

Thanks and have a wonderful day.
Collins.

v2005

10-21-2005, 03:20 PM

DazMan

10-16-2006, 09:32 PM

Hi,

I am selling my Taurus Station Wagon for $1000
A person from the UK wants to buy it with a money order and have it shipped there...he saw it in the paper and online.

How do I know if this is a scam or not?

If it was a $50,000 car he may be interested but for $1000 it's highly unlikely he'd go to that expense and pain of shipping a LHD car to the UK. He'll probably ask for your bank details to transfer the money (as a lot of scams highlighted on this forum generally do!)

pettle26

12-26-2006, 06:20 AM

1, Thanks for the mail and the details of the ford focus. The price of the focus is ok by me. Concerning the payment, i will have my client make out the payment to you asap.
>
2, i have an agent who will be responsible for the pick up of the focus in your location and have it delivered to me. While title papers and other necessary document will be given to the agent at the time of pick up.
>
3, Please could you provide me with your full name, address and phone number to have the payment delivered to you via courier service.
> thanks
> george.
>
i recieved cheque for way too much phoned number to see if real as it was a cheque made out from cadbury sweppes, fella answered was foriegn and did not want to speak, his name was robin height, but person i was supose to be was george holmes
the cheque is now with police who are dealing with it, im still getting emails from this idiot but not replying to any anymore.

3,my client who owes me just call and confirmed to me that you have received the payment sent to you for the 1999 FORD FOCUS 1.8 LX 5dr [AC] Hatchback and which i would like you to kindly have the payment deposited should not take 3 days for clearense and the remaining funds would be given to my shipper for the pickup.

4, i wish you all the best ...
happy xmas my regards to your family.
Seasons Greetings,
How are you doing today, we do hope you are having it good.Well just recieved a call from my client concerning the cheque you recieved and was made to understand that you had recieved my package which contains cheque for payment of the
(1999 FORD FOCUS 1.8 LX 5dr [AC] Hatchback) which amounts to £2,800. So as arranged earlier on, i will like you to kindly bear in mind that you are required to make up with deduction of your fees for the vehicle as well as Western Union fees when carrying out the transfer through western union to the agent in charge of my shipment.
I have been in touch with them concerning shipment and handling and arrangement has been made regards your shipment and want you to make deduction out of the cheque of £6550 recieved and the rest funds sent to the agent today to enable him carry out his assignment.
Below is the Western Union Transfer info..
Greetings,
5,I have been notified by my account keeper that you must have gotten my payment (cheque/package).
I want you to kindly email me back as we have been drawn with an agreement here which is as soon as you get cheque in hand,you are required to get through to me.
I await your mail today so that things can be sorted out on time.
Thank you.
My best wishes to you this festive season.

robintheight@yahoo.com tel no. 07944887485
george holmes <georgeholmes_06@yahoo.com (beware this emails and phone number).

clertem

01-29-2007, 09:11 AM

Email 1:
Hello,
Regards to your advert on the internet, i will like to know if the (car) is still for sale, so I will like to know the last price for it and I will also want know the history and the present condition and also want to see the pics as well, so get back to me as soon as possible..

Regards
Matthew Raymond

Was sent in plain text...

Email 2:
Thanks for the response. So I have contacted my client who is interested in buying the (car) and he said he will like to see the pics.We've also concluded with the price that i will sell to him.However. i have also added my own profit to your own asking price of $ 9,500.You are hereby expected to confirm to me that i am free to add my own profit to your own asking price and will also agree to send my profit to me through western union.Hence, any amount above your own asking price will be returned back to me as my own commission and profit on the sales. I hope that is understood. As regards the pick up, as soon as you confirm to me that the money is cleared in your account, i will inform my shipper to come for the pick up immediatelty. I hereby you to provide the details for sending the payment to you only.

NAME
ADDRESS
CITY
STATE
ZIPE CODE
COUNTRY
PHONE

As soon as i hear from you, i will contact my client so that he can issue you a cheque payment immediately and will be mailed to you as soon as possible...

Moreso, you can reach me on this line +447024018886 Uk time

This email was sent in HTML, italic/Bold, 2 days after the first one.

My reply :

Sorry, but the car has been solved.

I removed my advertisement from drive.com.au ; And decided to sell my car in the local newspaper.

Hope it'll help some ppl around.

clertem

01-29-2007, 11:34 AM

Please read in my post above : The car has been sold*

By the way, I also received another email from another person,

Email1: from Kerry Freeman ( kary1automobile@yahoo.co.uk )
I am intrested in your advert car,please email me if the car is still available stating the current price,thanks.

Email2:
Hello,

I hope this will intereste you,my client and i were so happy when we received your response i must confess it really helped cos my client has got a buyer who has shown interest in your car so my client would love for us to make this transaction go through asap ,as soon as you are able to get the pics please email them to me

I wish to inform you due to time constraints on fact that we do not have much time , my client is ready to path away with the car for $9.500 based on the answers you have supplied ,this shows that the car is in a perfect condition.

My client has proposed a payment plan ,he said that i should inform you that, you should open an account with WESPAC BANK OF AUSTRALIA where he would wire the car fund into, due to the fact that he is not presently in AUSTRALIA at the moment, from his locaton he will wire your money into your ST WESPAC BANK account.

After pay has reached you, our agent will come for the pick up and drive to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer, while title papers and other necessary documents would be sent by you via courier to my customer.

Please Confirm and provide your,

Legal Name..................

Telephone Number............

Home Address ...............

WESPAC BANK OF AUSTRALIA info.........

Get this and get back to me asap.

Kerry.

I replied to this guy the same thing , saying that i already sold my car.

What a bugger.

clertem

01-30-2007, 09:49 AM

Even after my last email to him (it?), i received another one today :

Dear XXXX ,

I have discussed with my client on your proposal and he said that he have been banking with WESPAC BANK OF AUSTRALIA that he can not deal with another bank for security sake.I am b

He also said that he will pay you all your expences that you might incure in the process,you will comfirm your money first in your account before you will give any details of the car.All you have to do now is to get the account so that we can conclude this trasaction asap,hope you will understand.

Regards,
Kary

Notice the "I am b" without end of sentence...
!!!
I'm not replying this time.

alancat

02-07-2007, 03:26 PM

Hi, Really need some advice here, I Put my car up for Sale it an Audi TT

someone has rang me nothing unusual there, But he say's he from Ireland Colin Crimin. he wants to arrange RAC check on my car which the RAC are coming to see the car to do there checks. we agreed a price 800 less then advertised, I am unsure if this is a scam or not he has given me his banks address and sort code which I checked its Bank of Ireland Wilton Cork. and he is agreeing to do a bank transfer for the funds before collecting it. he wants my bank details which I have said I will only give to the bank direct.

Has anyone had this happen can I trust this person ? or is this a possible scam? I just can't see why anyone would come from Ireland to buy a car from the uk?

Any help would be appreciated

almostscammed

02-14-2007, 03:32 PM

Almost got me until I looked on the web under search for "overseas car scams"

string of emails starting with the following

PAYMENT/SHIPPING ARRANGENMENT
HELLO MY NAME IS (WINDER) I AM VERY MUCH INTRESTED IN THE SALE OF YOUR CAR PLACED ON (CARS.YAHOO.CO.UK) I WILL WANT YOU TO GET BACK TO ME WITH RECENT PICTURE ALSO.I AM A BUSSINESS MAN IN THE UNITED KINGDOM,BUT I AM BASED IN AMSTERDAN .I WILL BE HAPPY IF THIS CAR IS MINE AS I HAVE BEEN LONGING FOR THIS PARTICULAR MODEL.THESE ARE MY TERMS OF TRANSACTION;

1 I AM OKAY WITH THE STATED £xxxx
2 I WILL BE PAYING WITH A CHEQUE
3 I WILL PAY IN EXCESS WHICH WILL BE £12,000

THE EXCESS FUNDS IS FOR MY INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING AGENT THAT WILL BE COMING FOR THE PICK UP OF THE CAR AT YOUR LOCATION AS SOON AS CHEQUE CLEAR YOUR ACCOUNT .I WILL WANT YOU TO GET BACK TO ME WITH YOUR FULL NAME,ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER.THIS INFORMATION WILL BE NEEDED FOR SMOOTH TRANSACTION AS THE NAME GIVEN WILL BE ON THE CHEQUE AND IT WILL BE SENT TO TH E ADDRESS GIVEN SO THAT YOU CAN CLEAR FUNDS AND SEND THE BALANCE TO MY SHIPPING AGENT VIA WESTERN UNION TRANSFER INOTHER FOR THEM TO COME FOR PICK UP.THE PHONE NUMBER WILL BE FOR TIME TO TIME CONTACT.IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH MY TERMS SEND ME THE INFORMATION NEEDED WITH THE PRESENT LOOK OF THE CAR.I BELIEVE THIS TRANSA CTION IS ON TRUST,AS YOU TRUST ME WITH YOUR INFORMATION SO DO I TRUST YOU WITH MY FUNDS AND THE STATUS STATED THAT THE CAR IS OKAY AND IN GOOD CONDITION.LOOKING FORWARD TO A HAPPY TRANSACTION.

REGARDS,
WINDER

I replied sent a cautionary message saying why over £4000 for shipping and got some lovely responses back...I even started looking at alternative cars myself...

messages back and forward until I looked at Western Union and saw a problem in sending over £999 to the shipping agent...after a call or two to shippers and finance houses the possible sale of my beloved car was in doubt.

I emailed back saying send funds for the car only by bank transfer from his account in holland and deal direct with the shipping agent.. to date nothing back at all.....BE CAREFUL

asif.naqvi@gmail.com

04-14-2007, 05:18 PM

I got an email from someone in Spain wanting to buy my car, he was going to deal with shipping and pay by bankers draft. The fact he was going to pay by bankers draft made him seem like a genuine buyer. I still held off but was still tempted. Your post has helped me avoid being scammed. Thanks for that.

nearlyscammed

04-20-2007, 07:20 PM

Hi everyone, I've experienced nearly exact scam experience as described here. I was not contacted once, but 3 times from apparently different email addresses.

I think we should proceed to compile a list of IP addresses, found in COMPLETE email headers. (reference: http://www.johnru.com/active-whois/trace-email.html).

Example
Delivered-To: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Received: by xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx with SMTP id o12cs688845and;
Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:45:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx SMTP id b20mr6507121qba.1177091150324;
Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:45:50 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <SRS0=uI3e=JX=perfora.net=cgi-mailer-bounces-95037787@srs.perfora.net>
Received: from platane.DIT.UMontreal.CA (platane.DIT.UMontreal.CA [132.204.246.26])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f14si1855808qba.2007.04.20.10.45.49;
Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:45:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 132.204.246.26 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of SRS0=uI3e=JX=perfora.net=cgi-mailer-bounces-95037787@srs.perfora.net)
Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195])
by platane.DIT.UMontreal.CA (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l3KHjmNc015798
for <xxxxxxxxxxx>; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:45:48 -0400
Received: from [212.227.126.200] (helo=perfora.net)
by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrelayus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis),
id 0MKp2t-1HexB51N7V-0008Vo; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:45:47 -0400
Received: from [74.208.16.40] (helo=infong499 ident=8)
by mrvnet.kundenserver.de with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1)
id 1HexB4-00014d-00
for xxxxxxxxxxxx; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:45:46 +0200
Received: from [208.70.7.243]
by infong499.perfora.net with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:45:43 -0400
X-Sender-Info: 95037787@infong499
Precedence: bulk
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Ad Interest
From: faithysmart005@yahoo.com
Message-ID: <0MKp2t-1HexB51N7V-0008Vo@mrelay.perfora.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:45:47 -0400
X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19zbkyRhg4b1waz/4duH0sJKmlweDxsBZLFG6f
R7hkgq0VOs12lrOeuW5N/mCESki51wl3fMrwdiKRs/QQg3Vdmj
TjBj9G+FtE=
X-NAI-Spam-Level: *
X-NAI-Spam-Score: 1
X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered
FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD=1

Shown in BOLD is the IP address nearest to the sender. It's not precise but it does give a very good geolocial location. This line should be the first IP address you see starting from the bottom of the header.

Please post them here!!! Use http://ip-adress.com/ to find the geological location as well. If you need help, please do not hesitate to PM me.

nearlyscammed

04-20-2007, 07:29 PM

faithysmart005@yahoo.com (Ongoing...)
208.70.7.243
Nigeria
208.70.7.243
Nigeria

garcia_masin007@yahoo.com
196.3.63.252
Nigeria

jameshowardcxx@yahoo.com (Received 4 messages, in chronological order)
83.229.90.49
Nigeria
83.229.90.49
Nigeria
83.229.90.49
Nigeria
195.245.109.218
Israel

This (these) guy(s) seems to be very consistent in the location and the emails are treated manually and not by script.

jollyroger1965

04-28-2007, 09:00 PM

engr john roland <engr_johnroland@yahoo.com> 196.207.10.122 Nigeria

toby_smart smart <toby_smart245@yahoo.co.uk> 196.207.10.122 Nigeria

matt lee <matt_lee111@yahoo.co.uk> 196.220.5.42 Nigeria

john solomon <john_solomon0001@yahoo.com> 196.1.190.12 Nigeria

kerry.moore80@ntlworld.co

05-09-2007, 01:48 PM

I was emailed the following and very nearly fell for it, luckily thanks to this site, i won't be trying to cash the cheque and instead i will hand it in to the police, whether anything can be done is a different story.

HELLO,
I SAW THE ADVERT OF YOUR CAR WHICH IS FOR SALE. I AM OKAY WITH
THE CONDITIONS OF THE CAR AND I AM READY TO BUY.BASED IN UK.BUT ON CONTRACT IN CANADA RIGHT NOW.

I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS PARTICULAR MODEL OF CAR.I AM OKAY WITH £14,295.

AND DUE TO THE NATURE OF MY JOB,I WONT BE ABLE TO FLY IN AND VIEW BEFORE BUY.BUT I WILL COUNT ON YOUR SINCERITY AS TO THE CONDITION AND PHYSICAL STATE OF THE CAR
I WILL WANT YOU TO GET BACK TO ME WITH THE PRESENT LOOK AND CONDITION OF THE CAR.THIS TRANSACTION WILL ONLY BE POSSIBLE IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THE FACT THAT;

1.I WILL BE PAYING WITH A UK CHEQUE/DRAFT.
2.I WILL BE SENDIND EXCESS FUNDS.

THE EXCESS WILL BE FOR MY AGENT FOR PICKUP.IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH MY TERMS YOU CAN GET BACK TO ME WITH
1. FULL NAME
2. FULL ADDRESS
3. PHONE NUMBER

NOTE:
PLEASE THAT THE DRAFT WILL BE SEND TO YOU BY ONE OF MY CLIENT IN
UK.............
I WILL REALLY APPRECIATE IT IF YOU CAN SEND ME THE PICTURES OF THE
CAR
BOTH INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR OF IT FOR FURTHER EXPLANATION.........
I WANT YOU TO BASED YOUR TRANSACTION ON TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY.
WAITING TO READ FROM YOU.
THANKS
PETER

kpow

05-14-2007, 04:23 PM

I'm sick and tired of those scammers, who ruins the standard buy/sell market, I've been exposed to both buy and sell scamming, but nevertheless I never got into a real scaming, loosing a lot of money.
Ok, people, I'm going to try the same trick as i was exposed to myself. Put an advertisement on a sellers website and was contacted by this guy, who call himself dr_allan_robert:
Hello, This is Dr Allan Robert, i am interested in buying your above named (auto) advertised on the internet in Denmark for my daughter as a wedding present and gift, please get back with the following details: 1) is the (car) still available for sale? 2) what is the last price you will accept in U.K pounds after conversion....? 3) email me the city where the (car) is located so i can know how much it will cost me for the shipping.... 4) please email me a recent picture of the (car) if available. Do not worry about the shipping, i will pay for the shipping, i will contact a shipping company that will come to your location for the pick up after payment is made. i just relocated from europe to Philipines to set up a private clinic, i am buying it as a surprise wedding gift for my daughter because she loves things from Denmark. she is getting married in europe soon. please reply soon so that we can proceed with payment arrangements. urgent response will be highly appriciated. regards, Dr Robert.

Lol- this is redicoulus and pretty obvious that it's a scammer, so I replied him with an exact answer that I got from a scammer, when I wanted to sell my car.

The car is still available for sale and also the export papers are ready for the buyer. It was imported from Germany and also manufacture in Germany. The EU certificate of origin is also available. Title of the car is clear and the car was never involved in any car accident. It is located in Sweden and it is 100 % functionality. The car is like new

Let's see whatever he feels about an answer from another scammer :-D.

nearlyscammed

05-16-2007, 03:15 AM

Well, there's little you can do and you're likely to be only wasting your precious time. Imagine the number of people who will fall for them. They are the winner even if they succeed only once in 10000. Sending email is extremely easy for these guys/girls (let's not be sexist here) and all they have to do is to create a common template and randomly select one to send, providing the name and car of interest. It's probably the same people who send out fishing email about a fund that had no better place to go but you, the "trusted friend", using "too-good-to-be-true" stories and settings.

Seeing that they're all pretty consistent in the location of their email, I don't think they used an IP re-director to erase their tracks. Given the IPs, I think that one day, even if not in the near future, our government may be able to crack them down. Untill then, I think the best that we can do is to continue to provide these IP information to help the authorities should they come to act.

Please read my previous emails concerning how to get the IP addresses of origin and how to lookup the location. It's extremely easy to do especially if you use outlook.

Good luck every1, progress is being made...

I'm sick and tired of those scammers, who ruins the standard buy/sell market, I've been exposed to both buy and sell scamming, but nevertheless I never got into a real scaming, loosing a lot of money.
Ok, people, I'm going to try the same trick as i was exposed to myself. Put an advertisement on a sellers website and was contacted by this guy, who call himself dr_allan_robert:
Hello, This is Dr Allan Robert, i am interested in buying your above named (auto) advertised on the internet in Denmark for my daughter as a wedding present and gift, please get back with the following details: 1) is the (car) still available for sale? 2) what is the last price you will accept in U.K pounds after conversion....? 3) email me the city where the (car) is located so i can know how much it will cost me for the shipping.... 4) please email me a recent picture of the (car) if available. Do not worry about the shipping, i will pay for the shipping, i will contact a shipping company that will come to your location for the pick up after payment is made. i just relocated from europe to Philipines to set up a private clinic, i am buying it as a surprise wedding gift for my daughter because she loves things from Denmark. she is getting married in europe soon. please reply soon so that we can proceed with payment arrangements. urgent response will be highly appriciated. regards, Dr Robert.

Lol- this is redicoulus and pretty obvious that it's a scammer, so I replied him with an exact answer that I got from a scammer, when I wanted to sell my car.

The car is still available for sale and also the export papers are ready for the buyer. It was imported from Germany and also manufacture in Germany. The EU certificate of origin is also available. Title of the car is clear and the car was never involved in any car accident. It is located in Sweden and it is 100 % functionality. The car is like new

Let's see whatever he feels about an answer from another scammer :-D.

dilger

05-18-2007, 09:30 PM

i advertised my car on easier.com for sale i had an email off a guy naming himself as harry taylor he got someone from northern island to send me a cheque for 3.800 pounds and asked me to help him send the payment of 2.250pounds via western union money transfer luckly my sister had seen the scams on used carmart.co.uk and warned me luckly i have not sent any payment nigerian scams beaware scumbags carl

dilger

05-20-2007, 01:38 PM

i received the same scam nigerian calling himself harry taylor rotten scam

bibicoz

06-04-2007, 02:10 PM

well im selling my car on Loot and without a word of a lie i have recieved a total of 9 emails i believe to be all scams. here are a few of them - its getting beyond a joke all i wanted to do was sell my car.

I am interested in your classified advert listed for sale,please email me back at your earliest convinience your last asking price,the area for the pick up immediately the payment has been made and lastly the reason for offering it for sale.
I will wait to hear from you soonest.
Regards.....
Richard Hova...

Hello,
I saw your advert via the internet and i am interested in the purchase of the "Tigra 1.4i 16v P reg ", I am a businesman who is into importation of used cars, good items. my only request is if you will accept a cashier's cheque drawn in U.K Funds which will clear between 2 to 3 working days and after funds is verified with you my shipper will come for the pickup in your location as soon as the transaction iscompleted . so if this is ok by you, kindly letme know your last price offer via email and forward me your phone number.Also with your full name, full mailling address where you will be receiving thecheque.Expecting your truthfull response.
Thanks,
JEAN.............

e-mail me at : jean_knight77@yahoo.co.uk

Hello,

Thanks for your mail and for getting back to me,the
CAR Price seem's great and I'm interested in
purchasing it .Concerning the shipment,my shipper will
come and pick it up from your location as soon as we
seal this transaction and I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I
WILL WAIT FOR THE CHEQUE TO CLEAR AT YOUR BANK.A
client of mine in the UK is owing me some
funds(£5,000)I instruct him to issue the cheque in
your name and You will deduct the cost of the(CAR)
(£1,900) when the cheque clear at your bank and the
remaining balance will be send back to my Shipper via
western union money transfer for immediate shipping
arrangment of the CAR at your location for the pick
up.If this is okay with you do get back to me
immediately with your information as listed below for
me to instruct my client to issue the cheque in your
name.Hope to hear from you soonest.

NAME ON CHEQUE:
ADDRESS:
CITY:
STATE:
POSTAL CODE:
COUNTRY:
TEL NUMBER:MOBILE:

Best Regards,

Alan Young.....

N.B,I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I WILL WAIT FOR THE CHEQUE
TO CLEAR AT YOUR BANK BEFORE THE SHIPPER COME FOR THE
PICK-UP AT YOUR LOCATION AND ALSO COMPENSATE YOU WITH
£50 FOR YOU TO REMOVE THE ADVERT FROM THE INTERNET AND
CONSIDER IT SOLD TO ME...
Hello,
I'M MR MARK DEANE,I am mailing for the interest i have in buying your ...

Tigra 1.4i 16v P reg £1900.00

Which i have read and understand every condition of it,i will also
like to know the present condition of the item and why you have chosen to sell
the item.I will want send the picture of the item via mail so that i will
be able to view the item...
I will also like to inform you that money draft or bank cheque will used for the payment,so get back to me with the
details for payment.......

FULL NAME THAT WILL BE ON THE CHEQUE............................................ ............
ADDRESS WHERE THE CHEQUE WILL BE SEND TO..............................................
CONTACT PHONE NUMBER FOR COMMUNICATION..................................... ..........

I will like you to know that i have a shipping conpany that will be
coming down to your location for the pick-up arrangement of the item.
For this transaction to be treated urgently and successful i will like
to get back to me with understanding.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Mobile:07024062990.

Regards,
DEANE
Hello,
I'm James Gibb,i came across your item and am highly interested in Purchasing it which you offer for sale.Please Kindly get back to me as soon as possible with the necessary answers to the question in mind,
1. Are you the first owner?
2. The present condition
3. How long has it been yours?
4. Who did you buy it from?
5. Your final asking price?
Furthermore I will also like you to send me Pictures to enable me view what I intend to purchase and I will like you to know that my form of payment is through a Cashier Cheque..I await your urgent response so that we can proceed further..Please I want you to get back to me with your final asking price..Regards,
James Gibb

neilr75

06-13-2007, 07:47 PM

Another one to add to the list...
alan_williams_1972@yahoo.co.uk
41.223.24.4
Lagos, Nigeria

Hello Seller,
My Name is Alan Williams.
I'm a citizen of United Kingdom,but I have all my business with my family in United State of America.
I have the intention of purchasing your advert for sale.
I'll pay you with a UK cheque,and wait for the clearance before the pick up arrangement.
Concerning the shipping arrangement,my shipping company will come for the pick up once the transaction has been sealed.
If this is okay with you,do get back to me with your LAST PRICE so that I can forward the payment to you.
Regards,
Alan.

s-j-wright

06-25-2007, 02:23 AM

i recently accepted a cheque for my passed fathers ford capri of £4000 before sending £2800 back to the buyer for transortation of the car to africa.. im shocked as i now realise ive been scammed. the thing im most concerned about is that i closed my bank account shortly after. my account at the time was a under 18s account as im only 18 now it was the first car i ever sold. i have contacted the police i was just wonderng does anyone know what the bank will do? its been closed for 2 weeks now the reason i closed it was that i had 2 accounts and that bank was closer to go to than my main bank so i cashed it and closed it not knowing that a cheque could actully be returned after its "cleared" and transfered the money to my main account at hsbc. im scared now as ive spent most of the money. and can they actually ask for it back if they cleared it?

thankyou.

mseeyore75

07-26-2007, 06:17 AM

I have a man asking to purchase my truck for someone over seas in London...I am SOOOO glad I found this site about fraud tonight. You are a God Send!!! Is there anyway I can help find out who this scammer is? Can I contact someone to help me connect or follow up on this scam!

There is a scam involving people from overseas targeting car owners with a view to shipping it across to their country. You will lose out on this, if you get someone contact you just ignore it. You have to ask why would they want to buy my car and pay for the shipping too! Here are details of what happened to one car owner

tranced

10-21-2009, 04:44 PM

Thank you so much for your information - I nearly got caught out so thought I'd better Google this first!

Here are the 3 different emails I received.

Message:
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am interested in purchasing this vehicle, it suits my requirements perfectly, I run two garages, one in Dublin and the other in the Netherlands, and I shuffle most of my time between the two.

THESE ARE MY TERMS OF TRANSACTION IF CAR IS EXACTLY AS STATED IN ADVERT:

1) I AM OKAY WITH THE STATED PRICE.

2) I WILL BE PAYING WITH A BANKER'S DRAFT / CHEQUE WHICH I WILL ALLOW TO CLEAR BEFORE THE PICKUP/SHIPMENT OF THE CAR.

3) I WILL INCLUDE FEES FOR SHIPMENT IN PAYMENT, THIS MY SHIPPING AGENCY WILL USE FOR PICK-UP.

The excess funds will go towards covering costs for shipping, shipper?s fees, insurance, tax and any other expenses that might be incurred getting it down to the new owner. I will want you to get in touch with the following details if my terms are okay:

FULL NAME............................
ADDRESS........................
TELEPHONE NUMBERS................... (Mobile and Land)

As soon as I have your details, I can have payment effected immediately, all things being equal; we should have this wrapped up by the end of this week.

Pleases
note that you'll have to send on the balance on the funds that you'll get to my shipper so he can come attend to the pick up as soon as you make the car ready. I believe that most transaction is based on trust, so I will look forward to a successful transaction with you.

Rev. Michelle Cole.
95 Ditchling Rd
Brighton BN1 4ST
London....
michelleauto02@yahoo.co.uk
+447045707622

And the 2nd one..................

Hello Seller,
Just browsing the internet when i came across your advert and am really interested in it.
My Name is Anderson Ryan I would like to make an inquiry about your car for sale.
Please i will like to know if the car is still available for sale and the present condition of the car.
Do you still have it for sale, If yes what is the present condition and your final selling price.
Also send some new photos of it if you have any ?
I will be waiting for your urgent response as soon as you see my mail.
you can as well get back to me at

ryananderson498@gmail.com

Hello,
Thank you for your urgent response as regarding my inquiry . I will like you to tell me your final asking price for the car,I would have loved to come for the viewing but I am so busy now doing so much business.I'd really like to pay you in cash at hands.But right now I'm not within your reach that I could easily come for the payment and pick-up .I am in Ireland...
If you any request please do contact me on my mobile phone number on +447024080604 you can call anytime.

I am an Agent, And I am buying on behalf of one of my client's whom has shown a positive interests in it and he is ready to make payment ONLY by a certified GBP Cheque drawn from the UK bank which will clear fully into your account within 3-5 working days.

Your asking price is okay by me and I would be willing to send you the
asking price and I would include the shipping fees which i would
highlight later.Please Note that my shipper will come to your
location for the pick up after you have confirmed the payment.

My client will send you a Cheque covering both your payment,
Shipping dues and my commission as a buying agent.This is how I earn a Living !

If this is ok by you,I will need these information below to enable me
send the payment out to you immediately so that we can
proceed.
This is the infomation that i need from you

Full Name......
Address to mail the payment.......
last price.........
Cell Phone number.....

As soon as I have the details above, I will ensure you receive the payment within 5 working days.As regards the shipment, Do not worry about it as I have my private shipper that would contact you for its collection once your bank confirm funds availability in your account.

Best of regards.
Anderson Ryan.

HERE IS THE 3RD ONE..................

Hello
I'm really glad with the content of your mail,Thanks so much for everything, Pls help me take proper care of it because I believe by now it belongs to me..Please DO NOT respond to anybody again ...well i I shall pay in UK Cashier Check or Bank Draft that will clear into your account before will proceed on the shipment .There is nothing to worry about the pickup. I have a shipping company that will sign all the papers and the transfer of ownership certificate at your location on behalf of me when the money credited to your account.and i shall contact a shipping company that normally does that for me.And also to let you know that the check your will received will more than your asking price and as soon you have it you will deduct your own cost and send the rest of the fund to the shipping company in order for the shipment to take place in your location..
Pls email me back today.and I'll need your data for the check, viz;
FULL NAME.......
CONTACT ADDRESS.......
ASKING PRICE..........
CITY........
STATE.............
ZIP CODE.........
PHONE NUMBER.........
Pls mail me today to let me know I am the rightful owner and also is my number if you have any question...+447045753418.

HOPE THIS HELPS PEOPLE!!!
Thanks Carl