View Full Version : LPG warning - is this true?
Mike Foster
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
http://htdig.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/faq.htm?id=8
Warning: Reader Bruce Purvis has come up with the following vital
information to anyone considering an LPG conversion in the UK: Basically,
our LPG is of inferior quality to LPG in mainland Europe:-
"I have begun enquiries about having na LPG conversion, and the engineer at
a major installer in the area advises that one of the factors to weigh up is
the quality of the fuel. He reckoned that unlike the continent, where the
fuel is adapted for automotive use, most if not all of that available in the
UK is simply domestic propane. A number of implications arise: Firstly the
fuel is 100% propane, not, as on the continent a 60:40 propane: butane mix.
Although UK fuel has a higher energy coefficient, it burns hotter and places
the engine under correspondingly greater stresses. Worse, because it is not
filtered as effectively as continental fuel, there have been numerous
instances of component failure arising from unfiltered inpurities. In a
domestic situation this isn't an issue, because the feed is from the top of
the tank, leaving any impurities below, whereas, in cars, the fuel feed is
from the bottom of the tank, and all the rubbish ends up in the system. The
genleman advising me showed me jars full of sludge which put me in mind of
the anti-smoking lobby posters about tar-filled lungs."
:::Jerry::::
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
"Mike Foster" <o@o.o> wrote in message
news:cfb1fi$46j$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> http://htdig.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/faq.htm?id=8
>
> Warning: Reader Bruce Purvis has come up with the following vital
> information to anyone considering an LPG conversion in the UK: Basically,
> our LPG is of inferior quality to LPG in mainland Europe:-
>
<snip>
And what has all this got to do with this group ?...
Chris Bolus
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:00:40 +0100, ":::Jerry::::" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:
>
>"Mike Foster" <o@o.o> wrote in message
>news:cfb1fi$46j$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
>> http://htdig.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/faq.htm?id=8
>>
>> Warning: Reader Bruce Purvis has come up with the following vital
>> information to anyone considering an LPG conversion in the UK: Basically,
>> our LPG is of inferior quality to LPG in mainland Europe:-
>>
><snip>
>
>And what has all this got to do with this group ?...
>
Some people do have classic cars converted to LPG you know, for example
Will Holman's Merc in Practical Classics.
It may upset the purists, but if you want to use a big thirsty classic
as a daily driver it makes perfect sense.
--
Regards, Chris (Please take out my car to reply by email)
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-------1972 Mini Clubman estate------1957 Standard 8-------
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Yippee
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
":::Jerry::::" <me@privacy.net> realised it was Tue, 10 Aug 2004
20:00:40 +0100 and decided it was time to write:
>"Mike Foster" <o@o.o> wrote in message
>news:cfb1fi$46j$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
>> http://htdig.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/faq.htm?id=8
>>
>> Warning: Reader Bruce Purvis has come up with the following vital
>> information to anyone considering an LPG conversion in the UK: Basically,
>> our LPG is of inferior quality to LPG in mainland Europe:-
>>
><snip>
>
>And what has all this got to do with this group ?...
Could it be that it's popular with some to convert thirsty classics to
LPG?
--
Y.
Stuffed
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
"Yippee" <yippee.104@intuh.net.invalid> wrote in message
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> ":::Jerry::::" <me@privacy.net> realised it was Tue, 10 Aug 2004
> 20:00:40 +0100 and decided it was time to write:
>
> >"Mike Foster" <o@o.o> wrote in message
> >news:cfb1fi$46j$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> >> http://htdig.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/faq.htm?id=8
> >>
> >> Warning: Reader Bruce Purvis has come up with the following vital
> >> information to anyone considering an LPG conversion in the UK:
Basically,
> >> our LPG is of inferior quality to LPG in mainland Europe:-
> >>
> ><snip>
> >
> >And what has all this got to do with this group ?...
>
> Could it be that it's popular with some to convert thirsty classics to
> LPG?
Oh f*ck, here we go again...
BTW, I seem to have accidentally killfiled Jerry. Not that I really want to
read most of his posts, but can someone tell me an easier way of k/f than by
email addy, as I think it's the me@privacy that's done it.
Yippee
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
"Stuffed" <talking@rse.non> realised it was Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:17:20
+0100 and decided it was time to write:
>BTW, I seem to have accidentally killfiled Jerry. Not that I really want to
>read most of his posts, but can someone tell me an easier way of k/f than by
>email addy, as I think it's the me@privacy that's done it.
Suggest you try a newsreader instead of a mailclient that believes it
can do NNTP.
The right tools for the job and all that...
--
Y.
Stuffed
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
"Yippee" <yippee.104@intuh.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:29bih09d4pvn19cap5g1dak4v93gtqcg62@newsfeed03 .glasvezel.net...
> "Stuffed" <talking@rse.non> realised it was Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:17:20
> +0100 and decided it was time to write:
>
> >BTW, I seem to have accidentally killfiled Jerry. Not that I really want
to
> >read most of his posts, but can someone tell me an easier way of k/f than
by
> >email addy, as I think it's the me@privacy that's done it.
>
> Suggest you try a newsreader instead of a mailclient that believes it
> can do NNTP.
>
> The right tools for the job and all that...
Oh, I agree that OE is ****e. But it does the job well enough for what I
want. Same as a chipped screwdriver is ****e for using as a lever, but it
still does the job for getting hubs off (to keep this on topic :)
:::Jerry::::
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
"Stuffed" <talking@rse.non> wrote in message
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>
<snip>
>
> Oh f*ck, here we go again...
>
Yes, you seem to love showing up just how bloody ignorant you are...
:::Jerry::::
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
"Yippee" <yippee.104@intuh.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:i99ih0teafqpold7inmr7hl1m10l6unnk0@newsfeed03 .glasvezel.net...
> ":::Jerry::::" <me@privacy.net> realised it was Tue, 10 Aug 2004
> 20:00:40 +0100 and decided it was time to write:
>
> >"Mike Foster" <o@o.o> wrote in message
> >news:cfb1fi$46j$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> >> http://htdig.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/faq.htm?id=8
> >>
> >> Warning: Reader Bruce Purvis has come up with the following vital
> >> information to anyone considering an LPG conversion in the UK:
Basically,
> >> our LPG is of inferior quality to LPG in mainland Europe:-
> >>
> ><snip>
> >
> >And what has all this got to do with this group ?...
>
> Could it be that it's popular with some to convert thirsty classics to
> LPG?
>
Quite possible I suppose, but is this really the best group to ask the
question in and not uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg ?...
Dan Drake
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:21:10 +0200, Yippee
<yippee.104@intuh.net.invalid> wrote:
>Suggest you try a newsreader instead of a mailclient that believes it
>can do NNTP.
>
>The right tools for the job and all that...
I think its been quite a few years since naked NNTP ran over the
networks that morphed into what is now the Internet. I think you'll
find that it's been encapsulated in IP since then. While I sympathize
with your viewpoint, NNTP as a communications protocol has been dead
for years.
I remember getting a *weekly* newsfeed on tape. And VAXNotes, and
DECnet and ... oh ****. There I go again.
--
Dan Drake
Peter Hill
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:43:14 +0000 (UTC), "Mike Foster" <o@o.o> wrote:
>http://htdig.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/faq.htm?id=8
>
>Warning: Reader Bruce Purvis has come up with the following vital
>information to anyone considering an LPG conversion in the UK: Basically,
>our LPG is of inferior quality to LPG in mainland Europe:-
Please don't multipost. There is a newsgroup specifically for LPG.
news:uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg .
--
Peter Hill
Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header
Can of worms - what every fisherman wants.
Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
Pete W.
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
> ><snip>
> >
> >And what has all this got to do with this group ?...
> >
> Some people do have classic cars converted to LPG you know, for example
> Will Holman's Merc in Practical Classics.
> It may upset the purists, but if you want to use a big thirsty classic
> as a daily driver it makes perfect sense.
Yup, a few Jensen Interceptor owners have looked closely at it as fuel prices go up and
down like a Barmaid's drawers.
A chap in Australia reckons the best way is a full conversion, not the duel fuel
conversions we do over here. That involves changing the carb for one dedicated to LPG.
Pete W
Chris Bolus
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:00:11 +0100, "Pete W."
<pete@(yourpants)squidlydid.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> ><snip>
>> >
>> >And what has all this got to do with this group ?...
>> >
>> Some people do have classic cars converted to LPG you know, for example
>> Will Holman's Merc in Practical Classics.
>> It may upset the purists, but if you want to use a big thirsty classic
>> as a daily driver it makes perfect sense.
>
>Yup, a few Jensen Interceptor owners have looked closely at it as fuel prices go up and
>down like a Barmaid's drawers.
>A chap in Australia reckons the best way is a full conversion, not the duel fuel
>conversions we do over here. That involves changing the carb for one dedicated to LPG.
>
That would be OK if LPG availability wasn't so hit & miss over here!
--
Regards, Chris (Please take out my car to reply by email)
----1961 Austin A40 Farina----1966 Triumph Herald Estate---
--1969 Riley Elf--1965 Wolseley 16/60--1965 Hillman Minx---
-------1972 Mini Clubman estate------1957 Standard 8-------
---- Website at www.b0lus.com ----
********** Please don't email in HTML! **********
Tealc
08-14-2004, 03:21 PM
":::Jerry::::" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Yippee" <yippee.104@intuh.net.invalid> wrote in message
> news:i99ih0teafqpold7inmr7hl1m10l6unnk0@newsfeed03 .glasvezel.net...
> > ":::Jerry::::" <me@privacy.net> realised it was Tue, 10 Aug 2004
> > 20:00:40 +0100 and decided it was time to write:
> >
> > >"Mike Foster" <o@o.o> wrote in message
> > >news:cfb1fi$46j$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > >> http://htdig.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/faq.htm?id=8
> > >>
> > >> Warning: Reader Bruce Purvis has come up with the following vital
> > >> information to anyone considering an LPG conversion in the UK:
> Basically,
> > >> our LPG is of inferior quality to LPG in mainland Europe:-
> > >>
> > ><snip>
> > >
> > >And what has all this got to do with this group ?...
> >
> > Could it be that it's popular with some to convert thirsty classics to
> > LPG?
> >
>
> Quite possible I suppose, but is this really the best group to ask the
> question in and not uk.rec.cars.fuel.lpg ?...
>
>
bugger me he's older than me
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 11:27:31 GMT, Chris Bolus <chris@FARINAb0lus.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:00:11 +0100, "Pete W."
><pete@(yourpants)squidlydid.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> ><snip>
>>> >
>>> >And what has all this got to do with this group ?...
>>> >
>>> Some people do have classic cars converted to LPG you know, for example
>>> Will Holman's Merc in Practical Classics.
>>> It may upset the purists, but if you want to use a big thirsty classic
>>> as a daily driver it makes perfect sense.
>>
>>Yup, a few Jensen Interceptor owners have looked closely at it as fuel prices go up and
>>down like a Barmaid's drawers.
>>A chap in Australia reckons the best way is a full conversion, not the duel fuel
>>conversions we do over here. That involves changing the carb for one dedicated to LPG.
>>
>That would be OK if LPG availability wasn't so hit & miss over here!
I remember seeing a "conversion" in a "alternative energy" mag in the
'70's which basically consisted of a biro on the end of a pipe from
the regulator (butane cylinder) epoxied into a drilled carb body,
downstream from the butterfly. the whole conversion cost about 2/6
(half a crown (about 12.5p) to you youngsters, and worked a treat. The
cylinder sat on the front bumper of the landie. Not so good in winter
though, the cylinder froze up.
J.
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